Gun Control & RKBA

Nuclear Unicorn

(19,497 posts) Sat Oct 8, 2016, 09:55 AM Oct 2016

When did a woman's right to defend herself become a RW talking point?

Consider the statement, "A woman's right to self defense is a RW talking point."

Now, think about what that implies. That means, in order to be a member of the Left in good standing a woman must cede her right to self defense.

Is there no right to self-defense, period; or do men only enjoy the right?

Does the Left believe because it champions the right to an abortion in the event of rape therefore it is justified in telling women they have no right to effectively resist a rapist?

Does the Left believe because it championed the Violence Against Women Act they are exempt from allowing a woman to defend herself when the Restraining Order is ignored by the abuser?

Yet, women who do exercise their right to defend themselves are belittled, condescended to and shouted down.

(Typical behavior among abusive partners, by the way.)

The right of women to defend themselves shouldn't be a RW talking point; it should be a universal talking point. Too many claiming to be a member of the Left need to shed their medieval expectations of female subservience and recognize the independence and self-determination of women.

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When did a woman's right to defend herself become a RW talking point? (Original Post) Nuclear Unicorn Oct 2016 OP

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I refuse to join with anyone who would subscribe to such barbaric misogyny. Nuclear Unicorn Oct 2016 #2

The NRA Candidate is going down, and women will be the reason. stone space Oct 2016 #3

No they won't but... discntnt_irny_srcsm Oct 2016 #4

It's not about politics. It's about the right to one's own life. Nuclear Unicorn Oct 2016 #6

The NRA knew exactly who Trump was when they endorsed him. (nt) stone space Oct 2016 #7

Nobody is talking about Trump except you. The right to self defense is not about Trump. Nuclear Unicorn Oct 2016 #9

How predictable. A deflection/non-sequiter NT pablo_marmol Oct 2016 #18

Trump will certainly be going down, even while women gun ownership goes up. jmg257 Oct 2016 #12

What is the penatly for Treason? stone space Oct 2016 #8

Those who claim to be Progressive while denying a woman's right to self-determination Nuclear Unicorn Oct 2016 #10

When it went beyond a rape whistle or dialing 911 and waiting. ileus Oct 2016 #5

Ding-ding-ding! Winner! Eleanors38 Oct 2016 #14

As my sister has been a victim of sexual assault more than once........ pablo_marmol Oct 2016 #16

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Nuclear Unicorn

(19,497 posts)

2. I refuse to join with anyone who would subscribe to such barbaric misogyny.

Reply to Post removed (Reply #1)

Sat Oct 8, 2016, 10:48 AM

Oct 2016

Either I or they will go but we can no longer both call ourselves members of the Progressive Left.

We were winning the War Against Women until we found traitors in our ranks. I will not join with the traitors.

stone space

(6,498 posts)

3. The NRA Candidate is going down, and women will be the reason.

Reply to Nuclear Unicorn (Reply #2)

Sat Oct 8, 2016, 02:14 PM

Oct 2016

I refuse to join with anyone who would subscribe to such barbaric misogyny.

Either I or they will go but we can no longer both call ourselves members of the Progressive Left.

We were winning the War Against Women until we found traitors in our ranks. I will not join with the traitors.

The NRA Talking Points contained in their latest Trump Ad aren't going to save the NRA Candidate.

discntnt_irny_srcsm

(18,565 posts)

4. No they won't but...

Reply to stone space (Reply #3)

Sat Oct 8, 2016, 02:31 PM

Oct 2016

...continuing to assert that a woman doesn't have a right to self-defense just might help him a little.
Who's side are you on?

Nuclear Unicorn

(19,497 posts)

6. It's not about politics. It's about the right to one's own life.

Reply to stone space (Reply #3)

Sat Oct 8, 2016, 11:46 PM

Oct 2016

stone space

(6,498 posts)

7. The NRA knew exactly who Trump was when they endorsed him. (nt)

Reply to Nuclear Unicorn (Reply #6)

Sun Oct 9, 2016, 07:37 AM

Oct 2016

Nuclear Unicorn

(19,497 posts)

9. Nobody is talking about Trump except you. The right to self defense is not about Trump.

Reply to stone space (Reply #7)

Sun Oct 9, 2016, 07:49 AM

Oct 2016

It was a right before Trump and it will be a right after Trump is gone.

pablo_marmol

(2,375 posts)

18. How predictable. A deflection/non-sequiter NT

Reply to stone space (Reply #7)

Mon Oct 10, 2016, 04:45 PM

Oct 2016

jmg257

(11,996 posts)

12. Trump will certainly be going down, even while women gun ownership goes up.

Reply to stone space (Reply #3)

Sun Oct 9, 2016, 11:13 AM

Oct 2016

Especially with regards to self-defense.

Sort of an enigma re: women and self-defense "talking points"?

stone space

(6,498 posts)

8. What is the penatly for Treason?

Reply to Nuclear Unicorn (Reply #2)

Sun Oct 9, 2016, 07:48 AM

Oct 2016

We were winning the War Against Women until we found traitors in our ranks. I will not join with the traitors.

And who exactly are you accusing of being a traitor?

That's a very serious charge, with very serious penalties.

Trump Calls Obama Traitor in Wake of Orlando Shooting

The Republican suggests the man he hopes to succeed next year is secretly in cahoots with the terrorists

Donald Trump crossed yet another line on Monday by basically calling President Barack Obama a traitor.

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http://atlanticsentinel.com/2016/06/trump-calls-obama-traitor-after-orlando-shooting/

Nuclear Unicorn

(19,497 posts)

10. Those who claim to be Progressive while denying a woman's right to self-determination

Reply to stone space (Reply #8)

Sun Oct 9, 2016, 08:24 AM

Oct 2016

will be exposed for the frauds they are.

ileus

(15,396 posts)

5. When it went beyond a rape whistle or dialing 911 and waiting.

Reply to Nuclear Unicorn (Original post)

Sat Oct 8, 2016, 04:04 PM

Oct 2016

Guns are mean...

Eleanors38

(18,318 posts)

14. Ding-ding-ding! Winner!

Reply to ileus (Reply #5)

Sun Oct 9, 2016, 02:05 PM

Oct 2016

pablo_marmol

(2,375 posts)

16. As my sister has been a victim of sexual assault more than once........

Reply to Nuclear Unicorn (Original post)

Mon Oct 10, 2016, 04:31 PM

Oct 2016

........this issue is a very, very sore spot with me. Now, my sis is the last person that should own a gun -- because under stress she absolutely freezes. (Took me a while to decide to post on this thread.)

There are plenty of women, however, who are eminently capable of defending themselves with firearms. Those women deserve better than to be cowed by blackhearted Controllers who would (hypocritically!) attempt to convince them that the weapon "would just be taken away and used on them" if they made the decision to own a gun. They certainly deserve better than to be told that perhaps they "just don't have what it takes" to attempt self-defense with a handgun or long gun. And to be subjected to the '47 times more likely' LIE.

Just one more gun-related issue where "honorable liberals" transform with GOP-like/Trumpian behavior. Absolutely sickening hypocrisy. And when asked directly if a women has a right to defend herself with a gun, these miserable cowards bob and weave......refusing to answer the simple question.

Done here.

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