...capacity of 11 or more....
Maybe it was an 'assault knife'.

While claiming allegiance to a political party that holds the verdict of empirical evidence sacred, we go 'full hypocrisy' on the gun violence issue. This while insisting there there is little/no political fallout from our dishonesty, denying any dishonesty exists, or putting forth the "argument" that the fallout is worth the price given the "moral correctness" of the intellectually and morally bankrupt positions. Given that Mother Jones has published an article by an author who essentially says precisely what I've just said, and other left-leaning media sources like Salon and Vox have published articles questioning conventional "liberal wisdom" on gun control, it becomes quite dishonest to dismiss these points as right wing talking points.

http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2013/03/dan-baum-gun-guys-interview

http://www.salon.com/2016/06/20/an_ar_15_ban_wont_stop_mass_shootings_thats_like_regulating_drunk_driving_by_banning_scotch/

http://www.vox.com/2016/6/20/11975850/ar-15-owner-orlando

With a high capacity clip

This story plays out in D.C., Chicago, and so many other places. In fact, prior gun offenses are strongly correlated with homicide suspects.

...where CC requires no permit.

Seems like they really are not interested in what could actually help.

Normally by this time we'd have at least one of our control "fans" ranting about "Well, then why have any laws!" as their go to "rationale" for any and every new gun law, whether it is constitutional, actually works, or is ever enforced ... or not.

...due to recent absences and self-deleteds.
Revel in the peace; bask in the agreement.

...were a bit fishy but clammy is close to fishy.

It reminds me of that scene in Roger Rabbit.

When they were trying to find where Roger was hiding and they used the "Shave and a haircut ..." knock to draw him out.

Like the Rabbit, who comes screaming out of the woodwork singing; "TWO BITS!", control fans can't resist deploying one of their shrinking set of pointless bumper sticker memes.

This meme is a close second to the "Fewer gun owners" commandment.

do you oppose strengthening those laws?



not exactly sure what your purpose on Democratic Underground is, in fact, i never really have been sure, since arguing with you when you posted that government should stop recognizing all marriage right as it was about to be legalized for same sex couples nationwide.

what is it you do here?

"Not all murderers"

As if this is just a few isolated incidents, things so seldom as to be overall insignificant.

The article isn't about a few people being set free though they can be prosecuted for serious gun crimes, it's about the practice being so habitual as to be a de facto nullification of the law.

Yet, we're supposed to embrace laws that will make peaceable people into criminals or disarmed sheep as we watch violent criminals turned back out on to the streets.

The cynical side of me thinks the pro-Control advocates want violent criminals to be given free rein so they may exploit the ensuing mayhem to argue for gun control. Perhaps you could save me from this cynicism by answering for me:

What is the virtue of freeing the violent while disarming their victims?

Makes for easy low risk police work, huh?

maybe if violent, armed criminals weren't being turned loose the people wouldn't feel the need to arm themselves.

Then the gun control advocates would see their goal of reduced civilian ownership and they wouldn't even have to pass a law to realize it.

Violent criminals seem to have no problem arming themselves and not much of a problem being released and even being allowed to buy arms at retail while passing the often touted background check.

It seems to me that if a year or two is reasonable for theft of $1000 to $2000 dollars, 5 to 10 times that ought to be appropriate for violent offenses.

The BGC system seems broken which probably bears some investment. The drug war is giant waste. So much money and effort could do some good.

Let me guess, no true Democrat disagrees with you on any issue, in any way.

...I feel that's just an NRA, RW, trump... talking point. Right?