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HAB911

(9,362 posts)
Thu Feb 2, 2017, 08:50 AM Feb 2017

Proposed (FL) law would make businesses liable if they decide to ban guns

Say a movie theater in Florida banned its patrons from carrying concealed handguns, but a mass shooter came in anyway and attacked — not unlike what happened in Aurora, Colo. almost five years ago.

Under an NRA-backed measure proposed this week in the Florida Legislature, victims who had a permit to carry a concealed weapon could sue the theater for damages, because its weapons ban left them disarmed when they might have been able to use their gun to thwart or stop the attack.

The new proposal (SB 610) from Senate Judiciary Chairman Greg Steube — a conservative Sarasota Republican who has proposed a slew of controversial gun-rights measures this year — says the “Legislature intends to find a balance” between gun-owners’ rights and private property rights.

And Steube’s plan to do that means businesses would be held responsible — and put at risk of being sued — for decisions to ban guns.

http://www.tampabay.com/blogs/the-buzz-florida-politics/proposed-law-would-make-businesses-liable-if-they-decide-to-ban-guns/2311700

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underpants

(186,718 posts)
1. Maybe they could hand out guns like X-ray glasses
Thu Feb 2, 2017, 08:54 AM
Feb 2017

and everyone returns them as they leave.

I mean, what could possibly go wrong?

C_U_L8R

(45,696 posts)
2. And republicans are supposed to be the ones
Thu Feb 2, 2017, 08:54 AM
Feb 2017

who are against oppressive
over-regulations on businesses?
Bullshit.

katmondoo

(6,498 posts)
3. I will not shop where there are guns allowed
Thu Feb 2, 2017, 08:55 AM
Feb 2017

I will not go to the movies if there are guns , I can stay home and shop on line, I cam watch movies at home, I can make my own Starbucks coffee. The gun nuts can go to hell

mindem

(1,580 posts)
4. They get all hot and bothered over the protecting 2nd amendment
Thu Feb 2, 2017, 09:02 AM
Feb 2017

but are willing to shred the first. What a bunch of little chickenshits.

TBA

(830 posts)
5. Then they need to allow guns in the Capitol and the Senate and House chambers
Thu Feb 2, 2017, 09:05 AM
Feb 2017

Take out those metal detectors and relieve those security personnel!

HAB911

(9,362 posts)
6. agree, just another step in dividing the country
Thu Feb 2, 2017, 09:09 AM
Feb 2017

soon there will be businesses with gun/no gun signs in the window or rainbow/no rainbow signs or crosses/coexist signs and we can choose where to spend our money

 

Eleanors38

(18,318 posts)
15. The controllers treat this "issue" like a culture war. Now, it's payback.
Sat Feb 4, 2017, 03:47 PM
Feb 2017

Expect more and more of these silly proposals as the GOPers seek to destroy Carthage, and as politically tone-deaf Democrats mumble about more gun control. To the Republicans, gun control is the gift what keeps on giving.

 

1965Comet

(175 posts)
7. I am fine with this law, so long as
Thu Feb 2, 2017, 09:15 AM
Feb 2017

the legislature also passes another law allowing unarmed citizens to sue the NRA when a formerly "law-abiding gun owner" commits a crime with a gun.

discntnt_irny_srcsm

(18,579 posts)
9. My 2 cents
Thu Feb 2, 2017, 09:49 AM
Feb 2017

1) Society has become entirely too litigious. The answer to mishaps, crimes and losses of every sort is not always a lawsuit.
2) Sue the venue if their restrictions are unreasonable; show their actions and/or lack thereof have materially contributed to your loss and sue on that basis. Venues are, in general, no more to blame for losses, injuries and deaths from shootings than the manufacturers of the guns used.
3) I'm not sure what the NRA is thinking. I don't see how this advances the RKBA.

I, for one, agree with the 'vote with your money' stand.
Whether you're pro-control or pro-RKBA, don't patronize establishments with which you disagree.
A new law isn't needed.

jmg257

(11,996 posts)
10. If a venue wants to take responsibility for the security of their patrons, good for them.
Thu Feb 2, 2017, 01:23 PM
Feb 2017

I am sure they take further steps besides just banning concealed carry weapons.

petronius

(26,662 posts)
14. We sometimes see pro-controllers advocate that gun owners should be liable for
Fri Feb 3, 2017, 01:18 PM
Feb 2017

criminal acts committed with a stolen gun; this seems to be the pro-RKBA analog to that. In either case, I wouldn't support holding a third party liable for the deliberate criminal acts of another.

Businesses (and other private properties) should be allowed to set rules for what gets brought inside their establishments, and patrons/guests are free to stay away if they don't like or don't feel safe with those rules...

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