Gun Control & RKBA
Related: About this forumMy Turn: How do we keep guns away from bad guys?
http://www.topix.com/guns/2017/02/my-turn-how-do-we-keep-guns-away-from-bad-guys...
If SB 12 passes, everyone (except convicted felons) will be allowed to carry a concealed weapon. This includes people whom a chief of police, under current law, could determine is unsuitable for a concealed carry permit: a person who has a history of getting drunk in bars and picking fights; a person who has threatened someone with a gun in the past, though never convicted of a felony; a person who has been involved in road rage incidents; a person who has been the subject of multiple domestic violence calls to 911.
Under current law, if a person has committed an act of violence below the felony level, it is legal for that person to have a gun at home. But if that person wants to carry a loaded concealed weapon in public, we have a higher standard implemented by our chiefs of police. This is what Republicans and the NRA want to abolish.
The House will vote on SB 12 on Thursday. The New Hampshire association of Chiefs of Police has spoken out against SB 12. Please add your voice. Seek out your representatives and ask these questions: Should a known drug addict be allowed to carry a loaded concealed weapon? How about the man who punched his neighbor during an argument? Or the woman who has been diagnosed a paranoid schizophrenic, and sometimes fails to take her meds?
scscholar
(2,902 posts)Why pay all of that money to have police if you're going to make it illegal for them to protect us?
discntnt_irny_srcsm
(18,567 posts)...where the discretion of the chief LEO plays a role in issuing a CC permit. There's no change in who can buy a gun.
hack89
(39,179 posts)And would never use their discretion in a discriminatory manner?
Runningdawg
(4,606 posts)explode (literally) in this country. Its going to make the wild wild west look like a church social. If you don't own a gun a tactical vest and helmet, you will in 10 years. They say trends make their way from the coasts to the middle of the country. Not this time, places like OK where even if its not legal to carry (as long as you aren't a minority) the cops will look the other way, will open the door for the rest of the country.
discntnt_irny_srcsm
(18,567 posts)...crime and gun violence may begin to parallel that of Vermont where no laws, permits or restrictions on concealed carry have existed since 1777.
Runningdawg
(4,606 posts)the rest of the nation isn't that smart.
discntnt_irny_srcsm
(18,567 posts)Other states are following Vermont's lead. AFAIK 1o other states have similar laws.
Runningdawg
(4,606 posts)just that they are smart enough to not go around shooting at people because they cut them off in traffic or have a Bernie sticker on their bumper. Here are a few links to recent increase in road rage/shootings in OK alone.
https://www.google.com/webhp?sourceid=chrome-instant&ion=1&espv=2&ie=UTF-8#q=road+rage+incidents+up+in+oklahoma
discntnt_irny_srcsm
(18,567 posts)Lots of people are kind of terrible at driving but shooting them isn't the answer.
ManiacJoe
(10,136 posts)Link to the actual article: http://www.concordmonitor.com/Keeping-guns-away-from-bad-guys-7957862
SB12 takes away the chief's ability to subjectively control concealed carry. It has nothing to do with Bad Guys owning guns, which is already illegal for them to do.
discntnt_irny_srcsm
(18,567 posts)...it keeps guys the chief LEO thinks might be bad guys from CCing legally.
Or keeps folks who don't contribute to his election from...
Or keeps folks who he's not absolutely sure are good guys from...
pablo_marmol
(2,375 posts)Enforce laws on the books calling for lengthier prison terms for gun-related crime. We know for fact that the great majority of gun violence is committed by those with criminal records -- mostly felonies.
Edited to add: Make room for violent offenders by releasing the non-violent.
Although I wouldn't describe a person with a mental defect as a 'bad guy', I would suggest -- as nearly everyone does -- a greater emphasis on mental health. Kamala Harris left a LOT on money on the table that could have been used to improve and expand mental health care facilities in California. Unreal.
yagotme
(3,816 posts)and actually did it, and wasn't convicted of a felony, well, that's part of the problem right there.
This comes about from the sheriffs in some jurisdictions of "may issue" states, just telling the applicant no for no good reason, other than "Just 'cuz".