Gun Control & RKBA

Lurks Often

(5,455 posts) Sun Mar 19, 2017, 04:27 PM Mar 2017

Connecticut Gun Permits Increase 73 Percent In 2016

Link: http://www.courant.com/breaking-news/hc-gun-permit-increase-connecticut-0320-20170319-story.html

The CT State Police issued 30,000 new gun permits in 2016, compared to 13,000 in 2015.

Is this that mythical "tipping point" the gun control extremists keep promising?

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K&R discntnt_irny_srcsm Mar 2017 #1

Meaning 30,000 possible gun incidents? guillaumeb Mar 2017 #2

"(P)ossible gun incidents"? That sounds very much like "occasion(s) of sin" to me: friendly_iconoclast Mar 2017 #8

Ooooooooooooooooooooookay. guillaumeb Mar 2017 #9

I have absolutely no problem with the public expression of religious sentiments friendly_iconoclast Mar 2017 #11

I have no problem with people believing whatever, as long as they do not guillaumeb Mar 2017 #12

"YMMV" - "Your mileage may vary": friendly_iconoclast Mar 2017 #13

Thank you. eom guillaumeb Mar 2017 #14

So you failed to pick up on what most find obvious. pablo_marmol Mar 2017 #17

Apparently you find a connection. guillaumeb Mar 2017 #19

Any honest person with a functioning brain does. NT pablo_marmol Mar 2017 #21

I'm one of them. krispos42 Mar 2017 #3

This is in reference to concealed carry, or no? pablo_marmol Mar 2017 #4

I had the same question discntnt_irny_srcsm Mar 2017 #5

CT residents need a permit to buy a firearm or ammo Lurks Often Mar 2017 #6

I'm a NY resident ... Straw Man Mar 2017 #7

Federal and the applicable state laws still apply Lurks Often Mar 2017 #18

Thanks LO! NT pablo_marmol Mar 2017 #16

Yes, it is. From the original source: "State pistol permits spiked in 2016" friendly_iconoclast Mar 2017 #10

Get that, FI....... pablo_marmol Mar 2017 #15

Not the "tipping point" they're after, I believe, (haha), yagotme Mar 2017 #20

discntnt_irny_srcsm

(18,579 posts)

1. K&R

Reply to Lurks Often (Original post)

Sun Mar 19, 2017, 04:41 PM

Mar 2017

I'd consider it backlash.

guillaumeb

(42,649 posts)

2. Meaning 30,000 possible gun incidents?

Reply to Lurks Often (Original post)

Sun Mar 19, 2017, 05:26 PM

Mar 2017

One hopes the Russians are not planning to invade Connecticut.

friendly_iconoclast

(15,333 posts)

8. "(P)ossible gun incidents"? That sounds very much like "occasion(s) of sin" to me:

Reply to guillaumeb (Reply #2)

Mon Mar 20, 2017, 09:03 PM

Mar 2017

Last edited Tue Mar 21, 2017, 03:43 AM - Edit history (1)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Occasion_of_sin

In Roman Catholic teaching, an occasion of sin is an external set of circumstances—whether of things or persons—which either because of their special nature or because of the frailty common to humanity or peculiar to some individual, incite or entice one to sin.

Once again, the essentially religious nature of gun control advocacy is demonstrated...

guillaumeb

(42,649 posts)

9. Ooooooooooooooooooooookay.

Reply to friendly_iconoclast (Reply #8)

Mon Mar 20, 2017, 09:05 PM

Mar 2017

An interesting viewpoint.

friendly_iconoclast

(15,333 posts)

11. I have absolutely no problem with the public expression of religious sentiments

Reply to guillaumeb (Reply #9)

Mon Mar 20, 2017, 09:12 PM

Mar 2017

What I most certainly do have a problem with are attempts to encode faith-based beliefs into law.
YMMV

guillaumeb

(42,649 posts)

12. I have no problem with people believing whatever, as long as they do not

Reply to friendly_iconoclast (Reply #11)

Mon Mar 20, 2017, 09:14 PM

Mar 2017

try to convert me.

I have no idea what that final acronym means.

friendly_iconoclast

(15,333 posts)

13. "YMMV" - "Your mileage may vary":

Reply to guillaumeb (Reply #12)

Mon Mar 20, 2017, 09:21 PM

Mar 2017

https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=ymmv

Literally, "Your Mileage May Vary," coming from the small print in (American?) automobile commercials in the 70's and 80's. It has come to mean an acknowledgement that the opinion of the poster may not be shared by everyone.
I thought Weezer's later albums were better than their earlier works, but YMMV.

guillaumeb

(42,649 posts)

14. Thank you. eom

Reply to friendly_iconoclast (Reply #13)

Mon Mar 20, 2017, 10:07 PM

Mar 2017

pablo_marmol

(2,375 posts)

17. So you failed to pick up on what most find obvious.

Reply to guillaumeb (Reply #9)

Tue Mar 21, 2017, 12:12 AM

Mar 2017

The connection between religion and a faith-based viewpoint. And "gun control" is most certainly a faith-based belief.

guillaumeb

(42,649 posts)

19. Apparently you find a connection.

Reply to pablo_marmol (Reply #17)

Tue Mar 21, 2017, 09:59 AM

Mar 2017

pablo_marmol

(2,375 posts)

21. Any honest person with a functioning brain does. NT

Reply to guillaumeb (Reply #19)

Wed Mar 22, 2017, 06:01 PM

Mar 2017

krispos42

(49,445 posts)

3. I'm one of them.

Reply to Lurks Often (Original post)

Sun Mar 19, 2017, 11:08 PM

Mar 2017

The law changed after Newtown so you can't even buy ammo without a permit. And if I have to get a state permit to buy ammo, I'm going to get the one that lets me do everything; i.e., a concealed pistol permit. So I did.

Cost a pretty penny too. And Malloy wants to triple the price of the permit now.

pablo_marmol

(2,375 posts)

4. This is in reference to concealed carry, or no?

Reply to Lurks Often (Original post)

Mon Mar 20, 2017, 02:52 AM

Mar 2017

The photo with the article suggests CCW, though there is no language specifically indicating concealed carry. So 'permit' = CCW?

discntnt_irny_srcsm

(18,579 posts)

5. I had the same question

Reply to pablo_marmol (Reply #4)

Mon Mar 20, 2017, 06:13 AM

Mar 2017

I inferred that CCW was the meaning of "permit".

Lurks Often

(5,455 posts)

6. CT residents need a permit to buy a firearm or ammo

Reply to pablo_marmol (Reply #4)

Mon Mar 20, 2017, 06:25 AM

Mar 2017

There are 3 grades of permit in CT
Ammo permit: allows one to buy ammo and nothing else.
Long gun permit: allows one to buy a rifle or shotgun and ammo, but not a handgun
Pistol permit: allows one to buy and carry* a handgun as well as buy a long gun and buy ammo

Legally a CT pistol permit allows for open carry, although few do so.

Straw Man

(6,775 posts)

7. I'm a NY resident ...

Reply to Lurks Often (Reply #6)

Mon Mar 20, 2017, 08:27 PM

Mar 2017

...and I have a Connecticut non-resident pistol permit. I wonder if that entitles me to all of the above.

I also wonder about the utility of the "ammo permit." Are there a lot of people who want to buy ammo but aren't interested in buying guns?

Lurks Often

(5,455 posts)

18. Federal and the applicable state laws still apply

Reply to Straw Man (Reply #7)

Tue Mar 21, 2017, 06:22 AM

Mar 2017

So I am pretty sure you can buy ammo and a rifle or shotgun, presuming of course it is legal to own in CT & NY. A handgun would still be required to go through a NY FFL.

However, you may run into gun stores that MAY refuse to sell you a rifle or shotgun because they are overly cautious, in that they would rather lose the sale then possibly deal with the ATF or the respective state AG's or law enforcement.

Any big box store that sells ammo may choose not to accept your CT non-resident permit since they are less conversant with CT law and again would rather lose the sale then possibly deal the respective state AG's.

Some state attorney generals have filed lawsuits against companies and internet sites in the firearms and accessories industry for selling things to state residents even though the item was nominally legal to sell. Prior AG's in MA were notable for this and if you do any internet shopping for firearms accessories, you will run into companies that will not ship to MA, NY, CT and some other states. It just isn't worth the aggravation or risk for them.

pablo_marmol

(2,375 posts)

16. Thanks LO! NT

Reply to Lurks Often (Reply #6)

Tue Mar 21, 2017, 12:08 AM

Mar 2017

friendly_iconoclast

(15,333 posts)

10. Yes, it is. From the original source: "State pistol permits spiked in 2016"

Reply to pablo_marmol (Reply #4)

Mon Mar 20, 2017, 09:08 PM

Mar 2017

http://www.norwichbulletin.com/news/20170318/state-pistol-permits-spiked-in-2016

State pistol permits spiked in 2016
Mary Biekert

NORWICH — Pistol permit applications have been on the rise over the last year, nearly doubling from 2015 to 2016, throughout Eastern Connecticut and the state overall.

The number of pistol permit applications processed by the State police for the entire state of Connecticut nearly doubled between 2015 and 2016, according to statistics provided by state police spokeswoman Kelly Grant.

The number of new pistol permits issued throughout the state in 2016 was 29,941 compared to 17,327 in 2015, a difference of 12,614 equating to a 72.8 percent increase in one year.

pablo_marmol

(2,375 posts)

15. Get that, FI.......

Reply to friendly_iconoclast (Reply #10)

Tue Mar 21, 2017, 12:07 AM

Mar 2017

However 'pistol' permit is vague. Doesn't necessarily imply CCW. Thankfully LO cleared up the lack of specificity.

yagotme

(3,819 posts)

20. Not the "tipping point" they're after, I believe, (haha),

Reply to Lurks Often (Original post)

Wed Mar 22, 2017, 10:37 AM

Mar 2017

but it must be all those old white guys getting multiple permits to make all those multiple gun purchases that I've been hearing about.

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