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Dial H For Hero

(2,971 posts)
Mon Jan 10, 2022, 04:24 PM Jan 2022

New UK-legal .50 revolver marketed as "top of the line" home defense, with "enormous" muzzle energy.

https://www.umarex.com/products/product-universe/defense/t4e/2.4757.html



It's a CO2 powered airgun, firing a 17 grain .50 rubber ball at 350 feet per second. To put that into perspective, it has roughly 8% of the power of the .25 ACP (an extremely weak cartridge used in tiny pocket pistols).

In this video review, it won't consistently penetrate a cardboard box:

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New UK-legal .50 revolver marketed as "top of the line" home defense, with "enormous" muzzle energy. (Original Post) Dial H For Hero Jan 2022 OP
How special unweird Jan 2022 #1
Seems like a bad idea on many fronts.... TheRealNorth Jan 2022 #2
Not to mention that the idea of using it for self defense is laughable. Dial H For Hero Jan 2022 #3
Yikes. PTWB Jan 2022 #4
they dont have millions of gun nuts shooting anything that moves nt msongs Jan 2022 #6
Neither do we. Rest assured that if we did, the homicide rate would be thousands of times higher. Dial H For Hero Jan 2022 #7
So would this air rifle (72 cal, hollow point, 500 grain, 1200 foot pounds) be legal in the UK? ret5hd Jan 2022 #5
Anything that generates more the 12 ft lbs requires a Firearms Certificate. Dial H For Hero Jan 2022 #8
Ahhh...I didn't know if it was the "air" part... ret5hd Jan 2022 #9
A half decent punch sarisataka Jan 2022 #10
Self defense in the UK. LiberatedUSA Jan 2022 #11
Message auto-removed Name removed Feb 2022 #12
Actually, air gun silencers which are permanently attached to the barrel are unregulated in the US Dial H For Hero Feb 2022 #13

TheRealNorth

(9,629 posts)
2. Seems like a bad idea on many fronts....
Mon Jan 10, 2022, 04:32 PM
Jan 2022

First, it looks too much like a real gun that police (or victims) are not going to know when they see these things.

Second, this is likely just a way of gun manufacturers getting their foot in the door so they can build a constituency to demand real guns in the future.

 

Dial H For Hero

(2,971 posts)
3. Not to mention that the idea of using it for self defense is laughable.
Mon Jan 10, 2022, 04:39 PM
Jan 2022

A paintball gun is literally twice as powerful as this.

Second, this is likely just a way of gun manufacturers getting their foot in the door so they can build a constituency to demand real guns in the future.

In the UK? Rather unlikely, I'd say.

 

PTWB

(4,131 posts)
4. Yikes.
Mon Jan 10, 2022, 05:02 PM
Jan 2022

I just can’t fathom the logic that led to the UK’s draconian restrictions on self defense, even in one’s own home.

 

Dial H For Hero

(2,971 posts)
8. Anything that generates more the 12 ft lbs requires a Firearms Certificate.
Mon Jan 10, 2022, 05:28 PM
Jan 2022

Only one in 400 people in the UK have such a certificate, so it's legal for them. The other 99.75% of their population, not so much.

sarisataka

(20,986 posts)
10. A half decent punch
Mon Jan 10, 2022, 08:10 PM
Jan 2022

Would have even more "enormous" energy as would throwing it at an attacker.
Having read some UK self defense cases however doing either of those could put the person in more legal trouble than the criminal.

 

LiberatedUSA

(1,666 posts)
11. Self defense in the UK.
Wed Jan 12, 2022, 12:41 PM
Jan 2022

Haha. All one has to do is read some self defense news reports out of the UK to see how well self defense plays out in their court system.

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Dial H For Hero

(2,971 posts)
13. Actually, air gun silencers which are permanently attached to the barrel are unregulated in the US
Sun Feb 13, 2022, 06:10 PM
Feb 2022

Not detachable ones, though.

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