Gun Control & RKBA

TexLaProgressive

(12,318 posts) Fri Feb 18, 2022, 09:18 AM Feb 2022

9 year old girl shot by robbery victim 3rd child killed in Houston this year.

Moved from GD to Guns

No details on whether the “robbery victim” was a legal gun owner, but with the extremely lax gun laws in Texas, most anyone is.

Very sad, say her name, Arlene Alvarez.

A man who was robbed at gunpoint at a bank ATM drive-thru on Monday evening pulled his own gun and fired shots at the robber, but instead struck a 9-year-old girl who was in the backseat of her family’s vehicle, authorities said. The girl died Tuesday evening.

The child, identified by relatives as Arlene Alvarez, was shot around 9:45 p.m. Monday as her father drove her and her siblings by a Chase bank on Winkler Drive, near the 2900 block of Woodridge Drive in southeast Houston.

https://www.houstonchronicle.com/news/houston-texas/crime/article/Girl-shot-during-robbery-aftermath-at-southeast-16919925.php

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9 year old girl shot by robbery victim 3rd child killed in Houston this year. (Original Post) TexLaProgressive Feb 2022 OP

My understanding is that he lost sight of the robber.... krispos42 Feb 2022 #1

He shot at a target two *blocks* away. Dial H For Hero Feb 2022 #2

Two BLOCKS away? krispos42 Feb 2022 #3

chicago safer than houston; why? if 'more guns, less crime'? jimmy the one Feb 2022 #4

whatever discntnt_irny_srcsm Feb 2022 #5

krispos42

(49,445 posts)

1. My understanding is that he lost sight of the robber....

Reply to TexLaProgressive (Original post)

Fri Feb 18, 2022, 12:24 PM

Feb 2022

...when the robber fled. The victim went in pursuit and thought the robber was in the pickup truck.

Obviously the lesson here is that you don't play cop! You call the cops!

The victim was right about being worried about getting robbed because a criminal did try to rob him! But the victim then went off and tried to play hero vigilante or whatever a killed a kid.

No, you don't do that. Once the threat is gone you lose your right to wave a gun in the air. Now a kid's dead, the family is devastated, and the victim-turned-killer is going to jail.

Dial H For Hero

(2,971 posts)

2. He shot at a target two *blocks* away.

Reply to krispos42 (Reply #1)

Fri Feb 18, 2022, 09:30 PM

Feb 2022

Textbook example of how not to use defensively.

krispos42

(49,445 posts)

3. Two BLOCKS away?

Reply to Dial H For Hero (Reply #2)

Fri Feb 18, 2022, 09:41 PM

Feb 2022

With a pistol? Insane!

jimmy the one

(2,718 posts)

4. chicago safer than houston; why? if 'more guns, less crime'?

Reply to TexLaProgressive (Original post)

Sun Feb 27, 2022, 03:53 PM

Feb 2022

Chicago & Houston have similar populations between about 2 & 2.5 millions, similar demographics, sorta sister port cities.

2022 Compare Crime Rates: Chicago, IL vs Houston, TX

.............................Chicago, IL Houston, TX United States
violent crime rate ......49.9 ......... 50.4 ...... 22.7
property crime rate ...46.3 ........ 63.2 ...... 35.4

Guns doing great work in houston, eh? .. violent crime & murder rate parity with chicago, but houston has 40% higher property crime.
Since both together constitute 'total crime rate', houston ergo has a higher total crime rate than chicago. Dunno if this is just the two months of january & feb tho, or the 2022 report card for 2021.

https://www.bestplaces.net/crime/?city1=51714000&city2=54835000

The site below corroborates above, having chicago with 3926 total crime rate. houston 5435.
John Lott, aka Mary Rosh, was wrong.
Where is the outcry regarding houston from the right wing? tho they often bash chicago crime mercilessly.
https://www.areavibes.com/compare-results/?place1=Houston%2C%20TX&place2=Chicago%2C%20IL#cri

discntnt_irny_srcsm

(18,595 posts)

5. whatever

Reply to jimmy the one (Reply #4)

Sun Feb 27, 2022, 03:54 PM

Feb 2022

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