when it ended the front page news bragged about getting 1250 guns off the street (many not functional). Buried on the national news page a tiny little column reported that the Department of Commerce had just approved the import of 800,000 handguns from China.

Gun prices are through the roof and the makers can't satisfy the demand of guns or ammo. People will only turn in their guns if they get more than the value of the piece, and then there is nothing to prevent them from buying another gun with the proceeds. It is a feel good program. Gun issues will have to be dealt with with gun laws. The only gun laws that I see changing are making it easier to buy and carry guns. Thank your Republicans.

A couple of days ago, I read a post by a right-winger that was going on and on about how Ukrainians were only able to fight back only because they had guns to defend themselves. I posted a link showing that Ukrainian gun laws were far more restrictive than America's gun laws and, low and behold, no reply. Of course, after the invasion, gun laws restricting ownership and use were suspended in Ukraine, but that had nothing to do with the poster's supposition.

The way to change gun laws is to elect lawmakers who have the guts to get the job done and whittle down the Right activist SC, Don't expect it in your lifetime. The truth of the matter is guns are here to stay until the Fascist gain complete control and then they will do what we can't. Among the first things that repressive regimes do is remove the Intelligentsia and the guns, so, in effect, most of us won't see it.

The dumbass right wingers know not what they ask.

you have to have guns to suppress an invasion. The government was handing them out to fighters, initially, THEN they suspended their possession/usage laws. I guess you could say they had a bit of an awakening.

The right-wingers are wrong because they contend that the only thing that protects their perverted vision of freedom are the guns that they have today. The Ukrainians proved that you can both have reasonable gun laws and still arm the public in an emergency.

Back to the original question, no, gun buybacks don't work. They may, in fact take some guns out of circulation, but the American gun industry is a 5 billion dollar a year business, buybacks don't make a noticeable dent in the number of guns in circulation. That can only be addressed by laws, like the rest of the civilized world does.

and with a lot of our gear overseas (prepositioning), arming a large section of civilians would be a little more problematic. Would the Russians have gotten as far as they did, if the public had a lot more arms than they did, initially? A guerilla force is hard to fight, a well armed one, even more so.

I suspect that might near every Ukrainian that wants one now has an automatic rifle or some even more effective, previously banned weapon. These weapons were denied, or seriously restricted, to citizens before the war started. So contrary to what the NRA would have you believe, citizens with more restrictive firearms laws than the US were able to be armed in very short order, by their government.

I contend that a majority of American of civilians armed with semi-auto weapons are much more danger to a free society than to a foreign government. I also content the the vast majority of Americans who own semi-automatic, carbine length, high-capacity removable magazine, rifles are the very same type of folks who wanted to overthrow the last free and fair elections, the same folks that march under a swastika or KKK flag, and the same kinds of folks who are devoted and proud racists. This is just my opinion based upon personal observation, over a long period of time, and I could be wrong.

"I contend that a majority of American of civilians armed with semi-auto weapons are much more danger to a free society than to a foreign government. I also content the the vast majority of Americans who own semi-automatic, carbine length, high-capacity removable magazine, rifles are the very same type of folks who wanted to overthrow the last free and fair elections, the same folks that march under a swastika or KKK flag, and the same kinds of folks who are devoted and proud racists. This is just my opinion based upon personal observation, over a long period of time, and I could be wrong."

What's a majority of civilians owning semi-auto weapons? That's a popular class of firearm, be it .22, high power rifle, or shotgun. 50.0001%? That's a lot of gun owners. We should be under authoritarian rule by now, shouldn't we?

What's a vast majority of the "high cap. carbine length" gun owners? Hard to say exactly how many are in circulation. That would still be a few million, at least, gun owners, and I don't see that many Klan rallies with those numbers taking place here. And to your statement, this is my personal observation opinion, living in a small town/rural area.

If 1/2 of the "evil" gun owners decided to take over the country right now, they'd pretty well get the job done. Jan 6 in Washington was a sh*t show, and there were no civilian firearms used. Only death by gunshot was a protestor by Cap. Police. Imagine if 1/2 those Trumpers had been armed, and didn't care about shooting police. How far could they have gone? I mean, really think about it. Couple hundred AR carbines, 7 30 rd mags apiece, and it would have been all over. The House would have fallen, and quickly, and the Senate wouldn't have taken much longer. SWAT response would have been too little, too late.

“ I contend that a majority of American of civilians armed with semi-auto weapons are much more danger to a free society than to a foreign government. I also content the the vast majority of Americans who own semi-automatic, carbine length, high-capacity removable magazine, rifles are the very same type of folks who wanted to overthrow the last free and fair elections, the same folks that march under a swastika or KKK flag, and the same kinds of folks who are devoted and proud racists. This is just my opinion based upon personal observation, over a long period of time, and I could be wrong.”

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Remember all the no knock without any warrants?



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You always hear how much people from Boston are badass but they all lined up and left without a warrant.

That’s why politicians want you disarmed

I prefaced what I said with it was my "contention", I also said it was my opinion. I even said that I could be wrong, however, I don't believe that I am.

It comes from years of experience with the people who are the fans of the "assault rifle" that are so popular in the US. These types of rifles have one real purpose and that is to kill as many people, in as short at time as possible, in a format that is legal to mass produce and distribute. That is why they are the weapons of choice of mass murderers and modern Fascists that call themselves "Patriots."