Nothing will turn the tide of actual harm until a courageous few are ready to de-segregate the lunch counter.

FYI, if a .223 hollow point hits a sheet rock wall it becomes a FMJ. Gypsum fills the little hole and it won't expand. Using an AR inside a home is just, well, stupid.

There, I just gun'splained it back at ya'.

Yes, I'm sure from personal experience. The same is true for a lot of other hollow point ammunition. Using a sand dune for a back stop will yield the same result. I've dug in-tact slugs out of a sand backstop.

Now if you are referring to using an AR inside a house, well yeah, that's just plain stupid. Unless you're doing house to house door to door close combat which is what the gun is designed for.

Yes this was a FMJ that penetrated 4 walls even though it did so going sideways. And because a hollopoint behaves like a FMJ after it goes through he first wall I'd expect it to penetrate at least 4 walls as well.

It is truely stupid to think this is a good home defense weapon.

Obviously it depends on circumstances. Big house, lots of property... Good.

I live in a small duplex. I have handguns, not long guns, because the longest possible shot I could need to take is 8-9 yards.

I use ammo that has red polymer in the hollowpoint, so expansion is guaranteed. But I still have to worry about penetrating the dividing wall between the units.

The downside is that I have handguns instead of rifles, and we both know that school shooting hysteria aside, handguns have 19x the body count per year.

I have no objection to owning an AR-15, I simply have no need to do so.

We can bog down into "misconceptions" or we can deal with the problem - fucking guns.

I simply do not care what kind, what caliber, whether they are "assault weapons", do they have a bayonet lug, etc.

I just want the fucking deaths to stop!

Much time and effort is misspent trying vilify AR-15s, assault weapons and other guns. The problem is the criminals. I have elsewhere suggested that a starting place would be universal background checks. I guess that wouldn't have stopped the shooter in Uvalde but many people agree that UBCs are a good idea.

I haven't studied the idea but raising the age for gun purchases is another idea that, at least on the surface, I don't have a problem with.

Preach that ARs are poor choices for hunting and home defense when, in fact, they’re effective options for both.

An AR loaded with dedicated defense ammunition will penetrate far less than their go-to suggestion of “just use a 12 gauge shotgun” loaded with 00 buckshot or slugs.

Highly frangible .223 hollow points fragment upon hitting even light material like drywall, reducing their already low mass even further, and minimizing over penetration.

I'd rather be hit by a slow-moving, tumbling bullet fragment than a fast-moving, tumbling bullet.

I repeat, using a .223 inside a house is stupid.

I really wish we had something like phasers from "Star Trek". Civilian versions would only go as high as "heavy stun", which instantly knocks people out cold for an hour or more. There wouldn't be a need for lethal force to stop somebody, and you would have the range and repeating shots of a handgun or rifle.

will go through 3 lathe/plaster walls. Gypsum is a poor stopper for anything, unless it's a pellet gun, or similar.

Owning a gun for self defense is stupid. Statistically speaking. Also thinking human speaking.

An AR is hard to beat for accuracy and lethality.

I like the RKBA but pistol practice is to expensive for me and I don't have the time for the type of training I would feel comfortable with.

You mentioned you don’t advocate for long guns for home defense, so I wondered what you preferred (or advocated for) for home defense.

An AR with a common 16” barrel is handy to wield, accurate to shoot, and exceptionally lethal. The main drawback to using an AR or other long gun for home defense is the potential for hearing damage, but a suppressor greatly mitigates that potential (at the cost of some portability).

I think for most home defenders a 9mm pistol with a weapon mounted light is hard to beat. But it does have the drawback of significantly more over penetration than from an AR chambered in .223 and loaded with highly frangible bullets.

Any home defender must be proficient with the weapon platform they choose to utilize, and is ultimately responsible for being able to identify their target (hence the weapon mounted light), and knowing the hazards of what may be behind their target.

...I would try to master a 9mm or maybe a revolver. One rule...use a gun that works every time. I did enjoy competing on the rifle team.

first criminal act was the murder of a LOT of people. Law abiding citizens right up to that point.

I, for one, am fucking sick of reading that the gun was purchased legally . . .

...the days or even hours someone has elapsed as an adult at 18 should be valid for the purpose of a BGC.

Not the availability of guns? It's the background check? Really? Keep posting, the rest of the sane world needs to hear from you . . .

...there are 2 groups of things, those that I change relatively soon and those that I can't. The availability of guns, 3D printers, 80% lowers... are in the group that would are harder to change and will take longer.

Some folks call it the art of the possible. I think it's common sense.

fit in one of two groups and those that don't.

It is the fucking guns. Period. Get rid of them and arm everyone with hammers.

One of the rifle took a bullet to the receiver and it somehow became full auto.

The HK-91 was still semi-auto. All the AK rifles were illegally modified to full-auto.

"A man armed with a bow fired arrows at shoppers in a small Norwegian town Wednesday, killing five people before he was arrested, authorities said.

The police chief in the community of Kongsberg, near the capital of Oslo, said there was “a confrontation” between officers and the assailant, but he did not elaborate. Two other people were wounded and hospitalized in intensive care, including an officer who was off duty and inside the shop where the attack took place, police said."

https://www.cnn.com/2021/10/13/europe/kongsberg-norway-attack-intl/index.html

more folks have been ...

Let us debate the length of handles of hammers, pikes, etc. Meantime let us stop the killing with guns.

the Ukranian flag icon. Me wonders.

Not sure what you're getting at. nra guy? Flag?