Gun Control & RKBA
Related: About this forumCross post: California gun data breach exposes personal info...10 years of concealed carry permits
Original OP: https://www.democraticunderground.com/10142936767
Personal information for Californians who were granted or denied a concealed and carry weapons permit over a period of 10 years, as well as the personal information of people associated with several other gun dashboards, was disclosed online this week, the state's Department of Justice confirmed.
DOJ said it is reaching out to those whose data was exposed and will provide credit monitoring services.
The data breach left the unauthorized information accessible to the public for "less than 24 hours" in connection with an update of the state's 2022 update of its Firearms Dashboard Portal on Monday afternoon.
[ Added emphasis is mine. ]
This is one of the reasons why so many are against similar data collections related to firearms.
The Magistrate
(96,043 posts)It ought to be public knowledge who carries concealed weapons, or has attempted to and been barred from doing so. Just like I want to know if the person moving in next door molests children, or a new hire is a thief. It's a matter of public safety. I will make my own judgement regarding the weight I give the information, but I want it, and it ought to be public. I damned sure want to know if the guy down the block prances about with a pistol under his shirt-tail.
sanatanadharma
(4,074 posts)Where is the right to privacy about owning guns?
No right to privacy means States (Feds) can require gun owners to register their guns.
Can't call up the militia if they and their arms are unknown.
Supreme Court may have opened the way to gun registration by arguing no constitutional right to privacy.
onecaliberal
(36,052 posts)discntnt_irny_srcsm
(18,591 posts)onecaliberal
(36,052 posts)Enjoy the dust bin.
discntnt_irny_srcsm
(18,591 posts)Technically, I believe inference would require at least a statement on my part. Perhaps you missed the question mark.
Have a nice day.
onecaliberal
(36,052 posts)About women's privacy. Maybe you cant comprehend what you wrote. If youre going to go there dont be surprised that someone will call you on it.
discntnt_irny_srcsm
(18,591 posts)I specific, my opinion is that ALL medical information is absolutely private privileged information. From your reply, "Pregnant woman can't be private why should these gun humpers get to be secret?" it CAN BE INFERRED that you are accepting of that information being compromised if the data released by CA DOJ on guns is also released. I asked a question. Infer what you wish from the question but I absolutely affirm that ALL personal private be safeguarded and not subject to publication by a rogue government actor.
Sorry for any offense.
JustABozoOnThisBus
(23,785 posts)Wait, no, HIPAA rules forbid such disclosure. Hacking is the only way to get these secrets. Or by constant surveillance.
AndyS
(14,559 posts)discntnt_irny_srcsm
(18,591 posts)AndyS
(14,559 posts)public an invitation to homicide.
discntnt_irny_srcsm
(18,591 posts)...an absolute right under the 1A.
I consider California's digital brain fart a violation of the 4A and 14A.
FYI, this was not hack, this was simply all the personal info publicly available on the web.
YMMV
PTWB
(4,131 posts)They compiled all of the information into a database and then connected that database to a public facing portal. Then the CA attorney general sent out a press release touting that they were releasing the information to the public in the interest of research, science, and transparency.
Just because there was extreme backlash and releasing the data may turn out to have been a violation of California law does not make it a breach or a leak.
These folks were intentionally doxxed. How many victims of domestic violence had their new address published? How about stalkers / abusers using this list to see if their victim is armed or not? If theyre not on the list, chances are theyre unarmed.
The backlash from this will be extreme. This incident will be the poster child that the gun rights movement uses for many, many years to show that the government should not be trusted to maintain a database or registry of firearm owners.
I cannot overstate how big of a disaster this was for those of us who would like to pass common sense gun control.
What a nightmare.
discntnt_irny_srcsm
(18,591 posts)IMO, this is a clear and dangerous violation of the 4th and 14th Amendments. IMNSHO, this is a clear and deliberate criminal act.
"DOJ was made aware of a disclosure of personal information that was accessible in a spreadsheet on the portal," the statement said. "After DOJ learned of the data exposure, the department took steps to remove the information from public view and shut down the Firearms Dashboard yesterday morning."
MichMan
(13,300 posts)discntnt_irny_srcsm
(18,591 posts)I just don't know.