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PTWB

(4,131 posts) Tue Jul 12, 2022, 05:15 PM Jul 2022

Surprise shooter acted in self-defense during home attack, police say

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Surprise police have determined the responding shooter at a house where three were killed and four were severely injured acted in self-defense when 46-year-old Jason Hunt was killed.

Police now consider the man who fired the first shot on July 3, who police identified as Hunt, to be the sole suspect in the case given “the evidence collected to this point and the appearance of Jason’s actions being unprovoked,” according to a Monday news release from the Surprise Police Department. Hunt lived in the same neighborhood, and the homeowners invited him to a large gathering at their house near 144th Avenue and Carline Drive.

According to new information gathered by the police, he arrived at the home, engaged in small talk with others at the residence, then went inside along with the group to eat. He was given a plate of food and sat down, but only a few moments later, he stood, pulled a handgun out and shot at several individuals.

One of the people who was injured from gunfire then shot and killed Hunt. Police said they determined that individual, as well as any others who fought against Hunt, were acting in self-defense and in the defense of other innocent parties.

Hunt is suspected to have killed 38-year-old Carl Dinora and 41-year-old Conrradito Ochoa Navarro in the gunfire. Four others were severely injured and several more sustained minor injuries. As of Monday afternoon, police say Hunt’s motive remains unknown and the investigation remains active.

Thankfully this victim was armed and was able to stop the active shooter before he was able to murder anyone else.

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Surprise shooter acted in self-defense during home attack, police say (Original Post) PTWB Jul 2022 OP

Obviously we need more guns. Voltaire2 Jul 2022 #1

It's worse than wild west history. Bluethroughu Jul 2022 #2

Congrats on your good guy with a gun NoRethugFriends Jul 2022 #3

The food must not have met the original shooters standards. Chainfire Jul 2022 #4

So sick is a society that is so sad ... sanatanadharma Jul 2022 #5

Always a good idea to follow it to the original link. Eko Jul 2022 #6

That link is much older than what I posted. PTWB Jul 2022 #7

Ha ha, that is the link they provided. Eko Jul 2022 #8

I guess I'm missing something. PTWB Jul 2022 #9

No, Eko Jul 2022 #10

Wise discntnt_irny_srcsm Jul 2022 #11

The article was a verbatim copy with credit to the source. PTWB Jul 2022 #13

Agreed. discntnt_irny_srcsm Jul 2022 #14

Not to be a stickler... PTWB Jul 2022 #12

Voltaire2

(14,789 posts)

1. Obviously we need more guns.

Reply to PTWB (Original post)

Tue Jul 12, 2022, 05:21 PM

Jul 2022

Bluethroughu

(5,841 posts)

2. It's worse than wild west history.

Reply to PTWB (Original post)

Tue Jul 12, 2022, 05:22 PM

Jul 2022

NoRethugFriends

(3,038 posts)

3. Congrats on your good guy with a gun

Reply to PTWB (Original post)

Tue Jul 12, 2022, 05:22 PM

Jul 2022

Chainfire

(17,757 posts)

4. The food must not have met the original shooters standards.

Reply to PTWB (Original post)

Tue Jul 12, 2022, 05:29 PM

Jul 2022

sanatanadharma

(4,074 posts)

5. So sick is a society that is so sad ...

Reply to PTWB (Original post)

Tue Jul 12, 2022, 05:42 PM

Jul 2022

... where someone being fed responds by shooting others dead.
So sad there was one who had a gun, but too we learn two brought guns ...
... to dinner.

Eko

(8,563 posts)

6. Always a good idea to follow it to the original link.

Reply to PTWB (Original post)

Tue Jul 12, 2022, 06:26 PM

Jul 2022

According to a Tuesday update from Surprise police, Jason Hunt, 46, had been invited to a large gathering by the homeowner. At some point in the night, several attendees became involved in a “clash” and around 10:30 p.m. Hunt pulled out a handgun and began to fire, police said.

Surprise police said they have determined several other people at the residence subsequently fired handguns. Hunt and two other men — Carl Dinora, 38, and Conrradito Ochoa Navarro, 41 — were killed in the shooting. Additionally, four were hospitalized and several others sustained minor injuries.

I wonder if those other people shot each other accidentally. Unknown at this point.
Eko.

PTWB

(4,131 posts)

7. That link is much older than what I posted.

Reply to Eko (Reply #6)

Tue Jul 12, 2022, 07:11 PM

Jul 2022

It sounds like that information is no longer accurate, no?

From my link:

Police now consider the man who fired the first shot on July 3, who police identified as Hunt, to be the sole suspect in the case given “the evidence collected to this point and the appearance of Jason’s actions being unprovoked,” according to a Monday news release from the Surprise Police Department. Hunt lived in the same neighborhood, and the homeowners invited him to a large gathering at their house near 144th Avenue and Carline Drive.

Eko

(8,563 posts)

8. Ha ha, that is the link they provided.

Reply to PTWB (Reply #7)

Wed Jul 13, 2022, 01:20 PM

Jul 2022

Entire yahoo article is suspect at this point.
Eko

PTWB

(4,131 posts)

9. I guess I'm missing something.

Reply to Eko (Reply #8)

Wed Jul 13, 2022, 02:25 PM

Jul 2022

The link you posted goes to the original (old / outdated) story. The newer link, that I posted, has been updated with the information released after further investigation. Is that not how it usually works?

Eko

(8,563 posts)

10. No,

Reply to PTWB (Reply #9)

Wed Jul 13, 2022, 06:51 PM

Jul 2022

Look at the top of the Yahoo page and you get this. "Sam Burdette, Arizona Republic Mon, July 11, 2022 at 10:31 PM". Top left is "AZCentral | The Arizona Republic". At the bottom "This article "originally appeared on Arizona Republic: Surprise shooter acted in self-defense during home attack, police say". Its not a new article nor an updated one, its just been posted to yahoo. If you go to the original article there is this at the top. "Sam Burdette Arizona Republic Published 5:13 pm, MT July 5, 2022". The date difference is because when you write an article on a web page and publish it, it will give the date you published it not an earlier or later date. So someone at yahoo copied part of it a couple of days later and published it, they just left out some stuff. That's why you never trust yahoo for news you always go to the original link.
Eko.

discntnt_irny_srcsm

(18,593 posts)

11. Wise

Reply to Eko (Reply #10)

Wed Jul 13, 2022, 07:13 PM

Jul 2022

My Sensei taught, "If you want to learn, go to the source."

PTWB

(4,131 posts)

13. The article was a verbatim copy with credit to the source.

Reply to discntnt_irny_srcsm (Reply #11)

Wed Jul 13, 2022, 08:51 PM

Jul 2022

I think his confusion comes from the fact that they linked to the older July 5th article within the updated July 11th article and he thought that Yahoo had changed the information, yet both articles were written by the same person.

discntnt_irny_srcsm

(18,593 posts)

14. Agreed.

Reply to PTWB (Reply #13)

Thu Jul 14, 2022, 07:02 AM

Jul 2022

I neither have nor had any confusion regarding the reported events and subsequent investigation.
My reply was to explain a generic SoP of mine and applaud its application. I have posted using yahoo as a source. I have seen many respectable news sources report with somewhat less than accurate adherence to facts and truth. I assume this is often due in part to the basic volume of information condensed and transmitted today. With the overall amount of news and editorials I expect that if I looked hard enough somewhere I would find gender reveal information on every mouse born born everywhere from Kansas City to Kandahar.

Stay safe.

PTWB

(4,131 posts)

12. Not to be a stickler...

Reply to Eko (Reply #10)

Wed Jul 13, 2022, 08:50 PM

Jul 2022

but I'm still not sure where your confusion comes from.

The article I linked in the OP was sourced from a July 11th article. The article linked within that article was to the July 5th article you posted. The July 5th article covered the initial release of information. The July 11th article covered the updated release of information.

You're stuck on Yahoo as a source, yet both articles were written by Sam Burdette of the Arizona Republic.

I'll provide both links below to help make it easier to follow:

Arizona Republic July 5th Story (This is the article that you quoted in your initial reply to me and was from an outdated article published on July 5th)

Arizona Republic July 11th Story (This is the article I posted in my OP and contained updated information published on July 11th)

Does that clear things up? If not let me know and I can see what I can do to help.

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