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Alexander Of Assyria

(7,839 posts)
Fri Apr 28, 2023, 07:53 PM Apr 2023

China and US are Polar Opposites on Gun Control

https://www.cnn.com/2021/09/20/china/gun-control-us-china-mic-intl-hnk/index.html

CNN

Last week, a 47-year-old man stormed into a law firm in China’s Wuhan city and shot dead a lawyer who he had “some disputes with,” according to Chinese state media. He then stuffed his gun, just under 20 inches (50 centimeters) long, into a tennis racket bag and left.

The fatal shooting shocked many in China, which has some of the world’s strictest gun control laws – so much so, that some people thought initial reports were about yet another American shooting.

“When my friend told me about the shooting, I thought it was the United States,” one person wrote on the Chinese social media platform Weibo. Another user wrote, “Using a gun to kill people in China? Am I watching an American movie?”

That disbelief widely reflects how rare gun crime is in China – in contrast to it being a daily reality in the US.

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If folks would look objectively at things there are lessons to be learned from most places where humans live.
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China and US are Polar Opposites on Gun Control (Original Post) Alexander Of Assyria Apr 2023 OP
Not sure I agree TexasDem69 Apr 2023 #1
You didn't misunderstand this poster. MarineCombatEngineer Apr 2023 #4
Well an unarmed population creates this DashOneBravo Apr 2023 #2
Oh, now here you are comparing China to the US. MarineCombatEngineer Apr 2023 #3
"I thought it was the United States" Paladin Apr 2023 #5
Just out of curiosity, MarineCombatEngineer Apr 2023 #6
re: "...there are lessons to be learned from most places where humans live." discntnt_irny_srcsm Apr 2023 #7
It doesn't surprise me sarisataka Apr 2023 #8
The laws are different, simple as that. And no gun loving war loving mass mentality. Alexander Of Assyria Apr 2023 #9
The laws are different and the sarisataka Apr 2023 #10
 

TexasDem69

(2,317 posts)
1. Not sure I agree
Fri Apr 28, 2023, 09:07 PM
Apr 2023

That the US should look to China for guidance on any issue.

On edit, maybe I misunderstood your point?

DashOneBravo

(2,679 posts)
2. Well an unarmed population creates this
Fri Apr 28, 2023, 10:09 PM
Apr 2023
The report’s findings confirm wide-scale evidence of mass arbitrary detentions, family separations, torture, and religious persecution — and it concludes that Chinese authorities may have committed crimes against humanity.


https://www.justsecurity.org/82978/a-un-report-implicates-the-chinese-government-in-crimes-against-humanity-what-comes-next/#:~:text=The%20report's%20findings%20confirm%20wide,have%20committed%20crimes%20against%20humanity.

MarineCombatEngineer

(14,322 posts)
3. Oh, now here you are comparing China to the US.
Fri Apr 28, 2023, 10:11 PM
Apr 2023

should've known you would take China's side.

In your world, China can do no wrong, but the US is always wrong with regards to China.

MarineCombatEngineer

(14,322 posts)
6. Just out of curiosity,
Sat Apr 29, 2023, 07:54 AM
Apr 2023

what other "attributes" about China's policies do you think are better that the United States?

No freedom of the Press?
No freedom of Speech?
No freedom of Religion?
How about no 4th or 5th Amendment?

I'd really like to know.

discntnt_irny_srcsm

(18,577 posts)
7. re: "...there are lessons to be learned from most places where humans live."
Sat Apr 29, 2023, 10:35 AM
Apr 2023

There sure are. From the same article:

Chairman Mao Zedong famously declaring in 1927: “Political power grows out of the barrel of a gun.”

sarisataka

(21,000 posts)
8. It doesn't surprise me
Sat Apr 29, 2023, 01:52 PM
Apr 2023

That gun control would look to China as a model.

There is an acceptance of authoritarianism in the movement. Some freedoms in addition to te RKBA may be sacrificed; that is simply a price to be paid in order to feel safe. The experience of the Uyghurs is just another cost for the greater good.

 

Alexander Of Assyria

(7,839 posts)
9. The laws are different, simple as that. And no gun loving war loving mass mentality.
Sun Apr 30, 2023, 06:51 AM
Apr 2023

Guns are kept separate from people who don’t need weapons of death. Simple.

sarisataka

(21,000 posts)
10. The laws are different and the
Sun Apr 30, 2023, 02:20 PM
Apr 2023

Societies are different. You cannot divorce one from the other.

China enforces its laws with draconian penalties and few personal freedoms. One in China can reasonably assume they are being monitored at all times.

When the US was created after the revolution, the founders decided against creating a new tyranny. They instead wrote a Constitution for a fairly open and free (with some noteworthy flaws) society. The trend over the years has been towards more freedom and participation.

China on the other hand chose differently. They took what is honestly the more typical path. The former revolutionaries found they had few objections to autocracy, when they were the autocrats. They created a closed, highly controlled society. Occasionally lip service is paid towards freedoms but Tiananmen Square demonstrates what happens if the people actually try to use their freedoms.

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