Gun Control & RKBA
Related: About this forumI'm told that the AR-15 is a 'Modern Sporting Rifle'
Hmmm, wearing what looks like body armor, lots of tactical pouches (If you call it tactical they will come) and charging downhill. Can someone tell me exactly what sport this guy is practicing for?
Xipe Totec
(44,044 posts)KPN
(16,080 posts)Last edited Sat Aug 12, 2023, 09:03 PM - Edit history (1)
Xipe Totec
(44,044 posts)70sEraVet
(4,134 posts)Even state wildlife agencies don't usually allow the taking of immature offspring of a species.
Xipe Totec
(44,044 posts)But we're not talking about people who abide by the rules, are we?
KPN
(16,080 posts)keithbvadu2
(39,955 posts)Last edited Sat Aug 12, 2023, 09:02 PM - Edit history (2)
https://democraticunderground.com/100215934293Rittenhouse's lawyers are arguing he was engaging in "legal hunting" on the streets of Kenosha.
Little Kyley should be in that ad... with his blue gloves.
Alexander Of Assyria
(7,839 posts)Apparently deer are also well armed and dangerous, requiring overwhelming firepower and armour to survive. Bambi is no pushover after all, those eyes can kill!
yagotme
(3,816 posts)over the last century and a half. Depends on the armor, actually. A good old fashioned .30-40 Govt, (AKA Krag,) been around since early 1890's, will go through and through most police vests. Gotta get to level IV to beat that old bullet. .30-30, the old lever cartridge, from 1895, will do pretty much the same. TONS of deer have fallen to it.
The Mouth
(3,281 posts)Pretty radical technology there, we'd better confiscate all of them and outlaw that caliber before too many of them are made or sold!
/s
Thank "Dougout Doug" for having the Govt make all those deadly ww2 semi-auto assault rifles in .30-06. We could have had a glut of .276 Pederson except for him. No worries about the "06.
The Mouth
(3,281 posts)only a hardcore criminal would want that.
ret5hd
(21,320 posts)dchill
(40,396 posts)dchill
(40,396 posts)sanatanadharma
(4,074 posts)The ad photo is the split-second before the fall seen in that famous decades old photo.
As noted by others, in blood sports, human blood is most valued.
keithbvadu2
(39,955 posts)AR-15 style rifle... the majority/plurality preferred weapon of choice for killing unarmed schoolchildren.
brewens
(15,359 posts)Turbineguy
(38,333 posts)It's what helps make us a shit-hole country.
BlueIn_W_Pa
(842 posts)to come here...
Let's be real
DashOneBravo
(2,679 posts)AndyS
(14,559 posts)a Modern Sporting Rifle and then with a pistol and finally a shotgun against a timer? Or is it training for a mass shooting in close quarters? Hard to tell which . . .
Oh, I get it! Like the term Modern Sporting Rifle it was invented by the NSSF to justify the term Modern Sporting Rifle! See, there is a sport for that military wannabe gun.
sir pball
(4,940 posts)3-gun aside
is there any shooting sport that isn't a "fantasy game about killing"?
Bullseye rifle shooting is about putting a bullet between a person's eyes doubly so for Olympic/ISSF 3-position, it's all about how well you can kill from various stances. Why does any reasonable person need to know that?
And the Handgun World Shoot
really, tell me that's not about imagining putting your entire mag into an innocent person's X-ring. They even use big, properly lethal handguns - this guy is an AUSTRALIAN with an M1911!
I actually support about 90% of gun control, but sometimes, yeesh. Is my predilection for powerful, accurate rifles or my love of archery, an equally vicious hobby a symptom of a desire to go all Mandalay Bay?
yagotme
(3,816 posts)How many have actually committed a mass shooting? I'm sure there's stats out there somewhere.
discntnt_irny_srcsm
(18,567 posts)Importantly, PLCCA provides six exceptions to its general industry immunity, authorizing the following types of lawsuits to proceed even if an intervening act occurred involving the criminal or unlawful misuse of the firearm industry members product:
1 An action brought against someone convicted of knowingly transfer[ing] a firearm, knowing that such firearm will be used to commit a crime of violence by someone directly harmed by such unlawful conduct;
2 An action brought against a seller (or importer) for negligent entrustment or negligence per se;
3 An action in which a manufacturer or seller of a qualified product knowingly violated a State or Federal statute applicable to the sale or marketing of the product, if the violation was a proximate cause of the harm for which relief is sought. (Note that State laws are defined for these purposes to also include the laws of any U.S. territory as well as the laws of local political subdivisions, such as cities and counties);
4 An action for breach of contract or warranty in connection with the purchase of the product;
5 An action for death, physical injuries, or property damage resulting directly from a defect in design or manufacture of the product, when used as intended or in a reasonably foreseeable manner, except that where the discharge of the product was caused by a volitional act that constituted a criminal offense, then such act shall be considered the sole proximate cause of any resulting death, personal injuries or property damage; or
6 An action commenced by the Attorney General to enforce the Gun Control Act or the National Firearms Act.
TexasDem69
(2,317 posts)Just like all other semiautomatic rifles it shoots 1 round every time you pull the trigger. Same as semiautomatic handguns. And shotguns. And revolvers. No real mystery to it.
AndyS
(14,559 posts)None of those other guns had a special name made up just for them. They aren't called 'Modern Sporting Pistols' or 'Modern Sporting shotguns'. Only the AR-15. The NSSF said they invented the term just for that wanna be military weapon.
So I ask you specifically, what sport is it designed for and what sport is the guy in the OP's ad practicing for?
TexasDem69
(2,317 posts)Cant speak for him otherwise.
AndyS
(14,559 posts)How about answering the basic question: "What sport is it designed for?"None of those other guns had a special name made up just for them. They aren't called 'Modern Sporting Pistols' or 'Modern Sporting shotguns'. Only the AR-15. The NSSF said they invented the term just for that wanna be military weapon.
I'm asking you to stay on topic and give some sort of answer to that question. Realize that it was you who joined the thread ignoring the point of the OP. You volunteered to take part, so take part.
Hangingon
(3,074 posts)AndyS
(14,559 posts)AndyS
(14,559 posts)The AR15 predates the 3gun by about a decade and a half. Seems the 'sport' was designed to justify the weapon, not the other way 'round.
SYFROYH
(34,201 posts)And then used in competitions. level actions, pump actions, revolvers, bolt actions, magazines, automatic fire, etc.
I can't imagine anyone creating a truly novel design for a sport that doesn't yet exist.
AndyS
(14,559 posts)SYFROYH
(34,201 posts)...when it said sporting weapons were good, others are baaaaaaad.
It's not for just one gun model.
For example (from the BATFE):
There is no Federal registration requirement for most conventional sporting firearms. Only those firearms subject to the National Firearms Act (NFA) (e.g., machineguns, short-barrel firearms, silencers, destructive devices, any other weapons) must be registered with ATF.
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AndyS
(14,559 posts)counter the poor public perception of the military look alike weapon. They basically said so.
Yes, the ATF cited 'sporting firearms' to differentiate NFA weapons from weapons requiring registration but in that context it's a generic classification not a specific name for a specific weapon.
Besides, 3 Gun is a fantasy game about killing people, not a "sport".
SYFROYH
(34,201 posts)Hence describing the AR15 as a sporting rifle places it on the good list.
3-gun is just a type of target shooting. No more, no less.
But you're free to speculate about competitors' fantasies, as you wish.
AndyS
(14,559 posts)"What sport is the AR-15 designed for?"
3Gun is 'just a type of target shooting' is like the AR being just another sporting rifle (that is based in a military RFQ, designed to look exactly like current military rifles, marketed using military themed ads and marketed to young and not so young men not sure of their masculinity).
That's not speculation. It's observation.
Okay, I'm done.
The Mouth
(3,281 posts)3-gun, hunting, target shooting all are great!
The capacity to deter (permanently if necessary) any asshole threatening my life, liberty, or property is just a bonus, as is triggering the histrionics of people who don't like the idea of me owning one. Just waiting until the 1968 and 1934 gun-control acts are overturned and nationwide Constitutional carry is the unalterable law of the land to really celebrate. YMMV.
Kennah
(14,463 posts)Coworker of mine from years ago, was an Army Infantry Lt. in Viet Nam. We were talking about firearms, specifically the M-16, and he remarked how he wished that he could have had an executive key to the soldiers weapons. Most of his guys were only proficient with semiautomatic fire. A very few with fully automatic fire.
I've watched people who were very skilled with a firearm shoot fully automatic and semiautomatic. No matter how damned good you are, a fully automatic firearm isn't very precise.
A magazine fed semiautomatic rifle is ideal for killing lots of people at close range.