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ck4829

(35,774 posts)
Sat Nov 5, 2022, 08:16 AM Nov 2022

Homeland Security Admits It Tried to Manufacture Fake Terrorists for Trump

The Department of Homeland Security launched a failed operation that ensnared hundreds, if not thousands, of U.S. protesters in what new documents show was as a sweeping, power-hungry effort before the 2020 election to bolster President Donald Trump’s spurious claims about a “terrorist organization” he accused his Democratic rivals of supporting.

An internal investigative report, made public this month by Sen. Ron Wyden, a Democrat of Oregon, details the findings of DHS lawyers concerning a previously undisclosed effort by Trump’s acting secretary of homeland security, Chad Wolf, to amass secret dossiers on Americans in Portland attending anti-racism protests in summer 2020 sparked by the police murder of Minneapolis father George Floyd.

The report describes the attempts of top intelligence officials to connect protesters to a fabricated anti-fascist terrorist plot in hopes of boosting Trump’s reelection odds, raising concerns about the ability of a sitting president to co-opt billions of dollars’ worth of domestic intelligence assets for their own political gain. DHS analysts recounted orders to create organizational charts that could be used to establish links between the arrested protesters; an effort that would seemingly legitimize President Trump’s erroneous tweets about “Antifa,” an organization DHS tried but failed to prove shared a central source of funding.

The DHS report offers a full accounting of the intelligence activities happening behind the scenes of officers’ protest containment; “twisted efforts,” Wyden said, of Trump administration officials promoting “baseless conspiracy theories” to manufacture of a domestic terrorist threat for the president’s “political gain.” The report describes the dossiers generated by DHS as having detailed the past whereabouts and the “friends and followers of the subjects, as well as their interests” — up to and including “First Amendment speech activity.” Intelligence analysts had internally raised concerns about the decision to accuse anyone caught in the streets by default of being an “anarchist extremist” specifically because “sufficient facts” were never found “to support such a characterization.”

https://www.yahoo.com/news/homeland-security-admits-tried-manufacture-114500599.html

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Homeland Security Admits It Tried to Manufacture Fake Terrorists for Trump (Original Post) ck4829 Nov 2022 OP
How much more do we need? bamagal62 Nov 2022 #1
Looks like he's going to run for president again instead. Kablooie Nov 2022 #11
I read somewhere that he plans to announce on November 14. Lonestarblue Nov 2022 #14
They'll howl non-stop about 'political witch hunt!' - and drag Garland into hearings if they win peppertree Nov 2022 #18
They should all be fired, prosecuted, and lose their pensions JT45242 Nov 2022 #2
Yet the mass media narrative is voters are ok with all that and want them back to power?? Alexander Of Assyria Nov 2022 #3
It's what Wall Street and the boardrooms want, so we should too peppertree Nov 2022 #19
Except that at the time, whoever refused or reported got fired. TigressDem Nov 2022 #6
And they wonder why no one believes a word any of them say. "Them" includes governmental Nay Nov 2022 #4
I trust people stopdiggin Nov 2022 #9
I'm pretty wary of throwing the government under the bus in general. plimsoll Nov 2022 #13
So am I, but damn, the DHS out-and-out whoring for Trump? and the Capitol Police opening Nay Nov 2022 #21
Absolutely, but that's not the government. That's corrupt people perverting the government. plimsoll Nov 2022 #22
OMG, he was so much worse than even I thought he would be!! CrispyQ Nov 2022 #5
I don't think any of us imagined it would be THIS bad. calimary Nov 2022 #23
There is no Anti-fa organization, and the George Floyd protestors were not terrorists LetMyPeopleVote Nov 2022 #7
What madness has struck these people. Did they think they would become TFG's buddy? Pepsidog Nov 2022 #8
God damn it🤬🤬🤬🤬 Traildogbob Nov 2022 #10
Someone please refresh my memory NCcoast Nov 2022 #12
How do I find out if DHS has a dossier on me? Thunderbeast Nov 2022 #15
Anybody following Rachel Maddow Ultra burrowowl Nov 2022 #16
Of course I'm NOT SHCOKED! Throw the FUCKER in JAIL already !! n/t TeamProg Nov 2022 #17
Straight out of the third world peppertree Nov 2022 #20

Kablooie

(18,745 posts)
11. Looks like he's going to run for president again instead.
Sat Nov 5, 2022, 09:44 AM
Nov 2022

Reports are, right after this election he will announce.
And so the time to indict him may have passed.

Lonestarblue

(11,669 posts)
14. I read somewhere that he plans to announce on November 14.
Sat Nov 5, 2022, 10:10 AM
Nov 2022

Maybe Garland needs to announce indictments on November 9! Not that indictments would stop Trump, but it might make Republican leaders back off their support a bit.

peppertree

(22,850 posts)
18. They'll howl non-stop about 'political witch hunt!' - and drag Garland into hearings if they win
Sat Nov 5, 2022, 11:19 AM
Nov 2022

"How dare you look into our Cheeto-Jesus' crimes!?!"

JT45242

(2,845 posts)
2. They should all be fired, prosecuted, and lose their pensions
Sat Nov 5, 2022, 08:22 AM
Nov 2022

If the order is illegal, you report it it the IG.

Anything less is a crime.

Root out all these enabling bastards who committed crimes or make them testify in open court all the way up the food chain to get Barr, Pompeo, Nazi Miller, and eventually TFG.

The pernicious nature of so many federalist society types all throughout DOJ, DHS, and other alphabet agencies that put rethug party over country makes me want to vomit.

 

Alexander Of Assyria

(7,839 posts)
3. Yet the mass media narrative is voters are ok with all that and want them back to power??
Sat Nov 5, 2022, 08:32 AM
Nov 2022

Have the voters forgotten who the coup plotters were, or has the mass media and mass media mass advertising money, thank you very much say the media, forced them to forget?

Or worse, have voters given up on democracy, or see no threat even as the threat looms over everything?

I don’t get it, fully. It bothers me.

peppertree

(22,850 posts)
19. It's what Wall Street and the boardrooms want, so we should too
Sat Nov 5, 2022, 11:22 AM
Nov 2022

With some notable exceptions like MSNBC, that's long been the media message.

TigressDem

(5,125 posts)
6. Except that at the time, whoever refused or reported got fired.
Sat Nov 5, 2022, 09:06 AM
Nov 2022

Those who willingly went along, yes.

But getting the evidence on tRump and putting him away based on testimony is what we need to get America back.


Cooperation should at least limit some of the damage.


Lack of cooperation from those who enjoyed the pillage and rape of America --- toss the book and the book shelf at them.

Nay

(12,051 posts)
4. And they wonder why no one believes a word any of them say. "Them" includes governmental
Sat Nov 5, 2022, 08:37 AM
Nov 2022

members, bought-off medical officials, the press, religious leaders, etc.

We've come to the point that, with so many higher-ups having been bought off and corrupted, we cannot truly trust anyone.

stopdiggin

(12,694 posts)
9. I trust people
Sat Nov 5, 2022, 09:37 AM
Nov 2022

I will continue to trust, unless given solid evidence regarding deceit. And by that I mean something beyond generalizations.

I believe the story presented here based on the reporting the OP references. Brought to us by 'the media' and government investigators.

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plimsoll

(1,690 posts)
13. I'm pretty wary of throwing the government under the bus in general.
Sat Nov 5, 2022, 10:05 AM
Nov 2022

The Trump administration and the GOP in general want to destroy faith in government. That has been their objective for years. In many respects they are more effective promotors of anarchy than any of the so called anarchists. Has the GOP been successful in doing this, yes. One of the reasons we want bureaucracy is that it can force consistent behavior, what we don't want is bigots creating that bureaucracy. Where the bigots are in charge the bureaucracy is used to reinforce their bigotry. That's what we're seeing, a systemic use of the administrative state to suppress those who object. The problem isn't "government," it the coopting of government to a partisan purpose.

Nay

(12,051 posts)
21. So am I, but damn, the DHS out-and-out whoring for Trump? and the Capitol Police opening
Sat Nov 5, 2022, 02:00 PM
Nov 2022

the gate? And Pence (and Biden) being wary about which Secret Service agents they can go with? All of this is so way, way, way over the line that I just can't deal with it, frankly.

And yes, I DO agree it's the bigots and nuts who have ruined government for the general public, but our general situation is still bad whether we 'trust' government or not.

plimsoll

(1,690 posts)
22. Absolutely, but that's not the government. That's corrupt people perverting the government.
Sat Nov 5, 2022, 05:09 PM
Nov 2022

It's little different than the the Jan 6 attacks. And I think it's OK for liberals to say that the GOP is perverting the government.

CrispyQ

(38,106 posts)
5. OMG, he was so much worse than even I thought he would be!!
Sat Nov 5, 2022, 08:39 AM
Nov 2022

And I was almost sick when he got the Republican Party nomination, that's how bad I thought it would be.

calimary

(84,117 posts)
23. I don't think any of us imagined it would be THIS bad.
Mon Nov 7, 2022, 12:15 PM
Nov 2022

I think maybe it’s innate to not want to assume the worst of some of our fellows. I wish I could keep believing that, myself. But the reality I see unfurling around the country is pushing me away from it.

Traildogbob

(9,870 posts)
10. God damn it🤬🤬🤬🤬
Sat Nov 5, 2022, 09:41 AM
Nov 2022

And his appointed Governors, Congress, Senate, billionaires and Media want to reinstall him and end elections after. And as of Nov 14 he WILL be the GQP nominee. Shit hole country would be considered an upgrade.

NCcoast

(481 posts)
12. Someone please refresh my memory
Sat Nov 5, 2022, 09:48 AM
Nov 2022

If I'm not conflating events (there have been so many) some uniformed arm of the Fed was abducing people off the streets in the northwest at that time, loading them into vans, and hauling them off to god knows where. The abductors were arm military or police but had no markings on their uniforms.

Did some people go missing all together? Wasn't there an Antifa 'leader' who died in custody? Could this thread lead to kidnapping or murder?

Help me out on the details please.

Thunderbeast

(3,528 posts)
15. How do I find out if DHS has a dossier on me?
Sat Nov 5, 2022, 10:18 AM
Nov 2022

I marched in Portland. I carried signs. My daughter was gassed.

Is there any legal action to have these documents destroyed?

peppertree

(22,850 posts)
20. Straight out of the third world
Sat Nov 5, 2022, 11:49 AM
Nov 2022

The only thing missing in the plot, was Aileen "Where's My Mercedes?" Cannon.

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