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TexasBushwhacker

(20,667 posts)
Sat Aug 15, 2015, 06:51 PM Aug 2015

Getting old stinks!

I've kept in touch with Henry, one of my mother's cousins, for years. He's 88 now and the last couple of e-mails I wrote to him, he didn't reply. I got a reply from his daughter in law today. He used to use hearing aids and he quit driving several years ago because of macular degeneration. DIL said they put him in a nursing home about a month ago. His grandson was living with him, but Henry had several falls. He also is now totally deaf and almost totally blind. They communicate with him by using a whiteboard. He loved his dog, Rusty, but now he can't have him.

He LOVED using his computer and kept in touch with people all over the country by e-mail. He even had a few international friends. He and his late wife were educational missionaries back in the late 50's and 60's in Afghanistan and Iran. He lived to paint and was quite talented. Such an interesting, happy sweet man. I asked his DIL how his health was otherwise, but she hasn't replied yet. Sad to say, but I'm kind of hoping his health isn't to good, because the thought if him wasting away, being deaf and functionally blind just breaks my heart.

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Getting old stinks! (Original Post) TexasBushwhacker Aug 2015 OP
I keep hoping Curmudgeoness Aug 2015 #1
Some countries are much more liberal and humane TexasBushwhacker Aug 2015 #2
I wonder if our country will ever be compassionate about right-to-die. It probably won't happen Stardust Aug 2015 #3
Frankly, there may be some push back from TexasBushwhacker Aug 2015 #4
I'm so sorry about your mother--you were wonderful to take care of her Since I live fairly close Stardust Aug 2015 #5
I agree TexasBushwhacker Aug 2015 #6
That is a lovely way to look at it. Curmudgeoness Aug 2015 #7
I'm sure this happens a lot TexasBushwhacker Aug 2015 #9
We were lucky that they gave us the choice. Curmudgeoness Aug 2015 #10
I hope you can move to Oregon if the time is right. Curmudgeoness Aug 2015 #8

Curmudgeoness

(18,219 posts)
1. I keep hoping
Sat Aug 15, 2015, 08:16 PM
Aug 2015

that I don't live long enough to be in that situation, but one never knows. I also keep hoping that I might have the legal ability to put a stop to it when it gets to that point.

I am sorry that you have to worry about him. Too bad you are not close to where he is, but from my experience, that would not help the way you feel.

TexasBushwhacker

(20,667 posts)
2. Some countries are much more liberal and humane
Sat Aug 15, 2015, 09:28 PM
Aug 2015

about right to die issues. There were identical twin brothers in Belgium who were deaf. The were 45, worked together as cobblers and shared a flat. Then they found out they were quickly going blind. They weren't ill otherwise, but the thought of never seeing each other again, being unable to work or communicate, was unbearable. They chose to end their lives with the help of compassionate doctors.

But Henry only lives a few hours away and I've been meaning to visit him for a long time. So now I will.

Stardust

(3,894 posts)
3. I wonder if our country will ever be compassionate about right-to-die. It probably won't happen
Sun Aug 16, 2015, 01:46 AM
Aug 2015

in my lifetime, if ever. I would like nothing more than to be able to check out when I thought it was time.

TexasBushwhacker

(20,667 posts)
4. Frankly, there may be some push back from
Sun Aug 16, 2015, 11:40 AM
Aug 2015

the medical community. Keeping people alive is very lucrative for some doctors. I'm with you though. I was my mother's caregiver for 6 years through her battle with breast cancer. The last 2 months were pretty bad. I would much prefer to be able to end my life peacefully, surrounded by my loved ones.

There's a really good documentary called "How to Die in Oregon".

Stardust

(3,894 posts)
5. I'm so sorry about your mother--you were wonderful to take care of her Since I live fairly close
Sun Aug 16, 2015, 12:29 PM
Aug 2015

to Oregon, I may just have to move there when the time comes. Hopefully, I'll have have enough sense to do it by then.

I'll definitely check out that documentary.

My thought is, it's my life and I should damn well be able to decide when and if I want to end it. Fuck the medical community, IMHO.

TexasBushwhacker

(20,667 posts)
6. I agree
Sun Aug 16, 2015, 12:47 PM
Aug 2015

Regarding my mother, it was the hardest and best thing I ever did. It cost me dearly, but I have no regrets. It's like being drafted. It's not something you want to happen, but when it does you serve honorably and to the best of your ability. You also find out who the draft dodgers are in your family!



Curmudgeoness

(18,219 posts)
7. That is a lovely way to look at it.
Sun Aug 16, 2015, 01:57 PM
Aug 2015

I was lucky enough to stay with my mother for quite a while before she got sick, and she went peacefully at the end after only a month of being sick. Actually, she was dying and the hospital gave two choices---try all they could to save her or "help her be pain free until she died". We chose the latter and what they really meant was to pump morphine into her until her heart stopped. This was plain and simple euthanasia, but no one ventured the word. I was grateful since she had already been through so much. And this was not in a death-with-dignity state.

TexasBushwhacker

(20,667 posts)
9. I'm sure this happens a lot
Sun Aug 16, 2015, 02:02 PM
Aug 2015

The problem is, by having to do it on the sly, they can't let anyone know and the family may not be able to be with their loved when they die.

Curmudgeoness

(18,219 posts)
10. We were lucky that they gave us the choice.
Sun Aug 16, 2015, 02:12 PM
Aug 2015

And that they called to let us know we had to get back to the hospital right away. So we were there, but you are right...the family should all have the opportunity to gather and see their loved one go peacefully without pain.

Curmudgeoness

(18,219 posts)
8. I hope you can move to Oregon if the time is right.
Sun Aug 16, 2015, 02:01 PM
Aug 2015

My uncle lived in Portland, and he chose to go that way. He probably could have lived another couple of years, since he was not in bad enough health to die, but he was immobilized and didn't want to continue to go downhill with no quality of life. It was only fair to give him that option. With a few states already deciding to give this option, it might not be that long before we all have options to die with dignity. At least we can now find a state to allow that.

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