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OKNancy

(41,832 posts)
Wed Dec 28, 2016, 04:36 PM Dec 2016

Husband got letter stating Social Security benefits suspended *Resolved* see below

Last edited Thu Dec 29, 2016, 08:02 PM - Edit history (1)

"because of your work"

We applied for early benefits ( age 64) in Sept. We have received three checks.
He had to stop work in August because he has/had cancer. He has gone through 33 radiation treatments and 3 strong chemo treatments. He had a feeding tube. He has not worked since August.

We have no idea if he will go back to work, but our plan was for him to collect SS and then work part-time. Probably make under the penalty amount, maybe a little more.

All I can figure out is they mistakenly think he was still working.

I filled out the appeal form with a cover letter. I put his boss's phone and his oncologist ( lol who is right next door to the SS office)

Anyone know anything about this process? I can't figure out why we got the letter in the first place or why they decided to suspend.

Thanks for any help.

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Husband got letter stating Social Security benefits suspended *Resolved* see below (Original Post) OKNancy Dec 2016 OP
I don't know the process either, elleng Dec 2016 #1
Yes, it does sound like SS Admin thinks he's working. marybourg Dec 2016 #2
not yet OKNancy Dec 2016 #3
My son recently wrote the Motor Vehicle Dep't about some problem, and got Cal33 Dec 2016 #22
Can you go to the Soc Sec office and talk to them? Might be easier than trying to use the mail. Tess49 Dec 2016 #4
HAHA! I'll bet they weren't amused! elleng Dec 2016 #5
They'll figure it out for you. Good luck! Tess49 Dec 2016 #6
yes, but you have to go through the appeal process first OKNancy Dec 2016 #7
The office in Moore, OK (Cleveland County) was so crowded it was like a cattle call. If you don't Tess49 Dec 2016 #8
Did he receive any payouts of vacation time, etc? Moosepoop Dec 2016 #9
ah ha!!! OKNancy Dec 2016 #10
Could the payout amount have exceeded the allowed amount? Moosepoop Dec 2016 #11
The vacation pay was only 600.00 OKNancy Dec 2016 #12
When vacation time was paid out PoindexterOglethorpe Dec 2016 #13
I am not sure of the rules which apply to people beginning to receive SS in a year in which Thinkingabout Dec 2016 #14
that is not necessary at this point OKNancy Dec 2016 #15
Hope you get this resolved shortly, it makes life difficult when we have paid into a program Thinkingabout Dec 2016 #18
I agree with others that if there is an office nearby, you should try to to there and talk question everything Dec 2016 #16
I plan to go through the steps they suggested. OKNancy Dec 2016 #17
Resolved!! one phone call OKNancy Dec 2016 #19
Fantastic news! CaliforniaPeggy Dec 2016 #20
Great! (nt) question everything Dec 2016 #21
So glad to hear this was resolved. PoindexterOglethorpe Jan 2017 #23

elleng

(136,365 posts)
1. I don't know the process either,
Wed Dec 28, 2016, 04:41 PM
Dec 2016

but maybe post more broadly, like Lounge and Health and Personal Finance.

Good luck!

marybourg

(13,193 posts)
2. Yes, it does sound like SS Admin thinks he's working.
Wed Dec 28, 2016, 04:41 PM
Dec 2016

Also sounds like you've done the right things. Did they give you a phone # for you to call to check on progress of your appeal?

OKNancy

(41,832 posts)
3. not yet
Wed Dec 28, 2016, 04:44 PM
Dec 2016

the letter is on my desk. We just got it today. I will mail it tomorrow.
I do all this kind of stuff for him.

 

Cal33

(7,018 posts)
22. My son recently wrote the Motor Vehicle Dep't about some problem, and got
Fri Dec 30, 2016, 07:02 PM
Dec 2016

an unfavorable answer. He wrote a second time and got a reply from a
different worker, who gave him the exact opposite opinion.

It could be a relatively new worker who doesn't yet know his/her job.
Just keep on writing and explaining until you get a satisfactory answer,
then go there and ask for that particular person, if necessary.

Good luck.

Tess49

(1,598 posts)
4. Can you go to the Soc Sec office and talk to them? Might be easier than trying to use the mail.
Wed Dec 28, 2016, 04:47 PM
Dec 2016

Their computers don't seem to communicate very well with each other. I had some problems a couple of years ago -- they had transposed a number in my bank account. Money was returned to SSA. Took forever to get it fixed. I offered to take in my 12 year old grandchild to do the data entry for them. They weren't amused.

OKNancy

(41,832 posts)
7. yes, but you have to go through the appeal process first
Wed Dec 28, 2016, 05:03 PM
Dec 2016

and I'll avoid the SS office if at all possible. It has a reputation as being crowded and rude workers.

Tess49

(1,598 posts)
8. The office in Moore, OK (Cleveland County) was so crowded it was like a cattle call. If you don't
Wed Dec 28, 2016, 05:18 PM
Dec 2016

hear your number called, they swiftly move along to someone else. Overall, an unpleasant experience.

Moosepoop

(2,000 posts)
9. Did he receive any payouts of vacation time, etc?
Wed Dec 28, 2016, 05:25 PM
Dec 2016

If your husband received any compensation after his last work day, such as unused vacation pay, earned sick pay, or any other income that would be subject to SS tax, and if that payment came in after the date of application for SS benefits, the $ amount would have shown up on SS records and possibly have been construed as compensation for active work.

That's the only explanation I can think of. Please keep us posted as to what you find out! Good luck to both of you!!

OKNancy

(41,832 posts)
10. ah ha!!!
Wed Dec 28, 2016, 05:42 PM
Dec 2016

I do believe he did.
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What gets me is that he is entitled to work anyway. I know he will be penalized if it is over the allowed amount, but since he works hourly and his boss like him, he will work with him on the hours.

Moosepoop

(2,000 posts)
11. Could the payout amount have exceeded the allowed amount?
Wed Dec 28, 2016, 05:59 PM
Dec 2016

I know they track it over a time period, and for one lady I know she has to stay at no more than 15 hours per week (at Michigan minimum wage - $8.50 hr). I don't know what your husband's allowed amount is or what his work pay rate is, but if the $ amount of the payout was high enough, could it have exceeded to allowed amount for the time period in question?

The suspensions for this are temporary, payments resume after a penalty period, but they cause a hardship at the receiving (or not) end. Hopefully you can get the suspension reversed and receive back pay for the checks missed in the meantime!

OKNancy

(41,832 posts)
12. The vacation pay was only 600.00
Wed Dec 28, 2016, 06:21 PM
Dec 2016

The date of "retirement" was August 18th but the 600.00 was paid August 29.

He hasn't worked at all since mid August. I wrote on the cover letter that he may go back part-time, but that we will inform....etc.
I also opened the letter and hand wrote on the bottom that " I got vacation pay after the retirement date, I bet that triggered this."

The 2017 wages limit is $16,720 per year. Then the penalty kicks in.
----

back to the 600.00. I guess the computers may have thought he was going to or was receiving 600.00 per week, which would have put him over the 2016 limits.

PoindexterOglethorpe

(26,730 posts)
13. When vacation time was paid out
Thu Dec 29, 2016, 12:53 AM
Dec 2016

should make absolutely no difference whatsoever. The only thing that should matter is if his earnings went over the maximum allowable while he was working.

Personally, I prefer to handle things like this in person, but sometimes the local SS simply isn't geared up for these things. Try to get someone on the phone, and keep photocopies of every single piece of paper you send them, and make notes on every phone call.

Hopefully this is just some dumb clerical error and will be quickly resolved.

Thinkingabout

(30,058 posts)
14. I am not sure of the rules which apply to people beginning to receive SS in a year in which
Thu Dec 29, 2016, 11:52 AM
Dec 2016

wages was earned at the beginning of the year. I would attempt to contact Congressional members in your state to provide assistance in getting this resolved. I would think after employment has ended the rules would allow a person to stop working ad then start receiving benefits.

Thinkingabout

(30,058 posts)
18. Hope you get this resolved shortly, it makes life difficult when we have paid into a program
Thu Dec 29, 2016, 01:14 PM
Dec 2016

and then when it is time to get the benefits we have issues.

question everything

(48,903 posts)
16. I agree with others that if there is an office nearby, you should try to to there and talk
Thu Dec 29, 2016, 12:54 PM
Dec 2016

to someone in person. You may find someone who can actually help.

In our office you'd have to make an appointment - which I did not realize first time but got the best agent.

Then two years ago they decided to help by phone and so far - fingers crossed - they have.

You can always try your member of congress, even if a rabid RW.

This is what they are supposed to do, help their constituents. Give them bragging rights on how they are there to help..

Good luck

OKNancy

(41,832 posts)
17. I plan to go through the steps they suggested.
Thu Dec 29, 2016, 12:58 PM
Dec 2016

1. file an appeal and then wait to see the decision.
It is obvious this is some minor error.

I may call with general questions, but this is for my husband and no way will he talk on the phone.
I have to do everything like this.

OKNancy

(41,832 posts)
19. Resolved!! one phone call
Thu Dec 29, 2016, 01:52 PM
Dec 2016

I decided to call the local TUlsa office. I waited on hold about 15 minutes, then spoke to a very nice young woman.
She said, " I can take care of it for you". Husband got on phone and gave permission for me to handle it....
Then a brief filling her in, and done.

She said we will receive his checks with no interruption.

CaliforniaPeggy

(152,214 posts)
20. Fantastic news!
Thu Dec 29, 2016, 07:48 PM
Dec 2016

That's wonderful.

I know you must both be very relieved.



You might consider editing your post title to let people know.......so they can congratulate you!

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