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REACTIVATED IN CT

(2,965 posts)
Sun Apr 22, 2012, 11:36 AM Apr 2012

So many sad tales lately

My 72 year old former co worker (now retired) whose money is running out and is hoping not to lose her home. Hoping that BOA will modify her loan so she is not out on the street.


My 55 year old cousin who was a police captain and whose city declared bankruptcy so his pension was cut in half....... They did not fund his pension plan adequately. Don't let your city/state do that. These public servants(police & fire) are not covered by Soc. Security and the PBGC only covers private pension plans.

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So many sad tales lately (Original Post) REACTIVATED IN CT Apr 2012 OP
Sorry to hear MrYikes Apr 2012 #1
Here are a couple of stories REACTIVATED IN CT Apr 2012 #2
Hmmm MrYikes Apr 2012 #3
We have this prolem in CT too due to the Repuke admins we have REACTIVATED IN CT Apr 2012 #4
These were in a daily newsletter I get at work REACTIVATED IN CT Apr 2012 #6
Both those situations are sad.... Little Star Apr 2012 #5
My pensions... murphyj87 Apr 2012 #7
The more we learn about Canada, the better it sounds, but MrYikes Apr 2012 #8
and we have to add "u"s murphyj87 Apr 2012 #9
Maybe MrYikes Apr 2012 #10
a minor point perhaps but all Eskimos are not Inuit. mysuzuki2 Jul 2012 #12
What organizations help elderly folks in these situations? Beartracks Jun 2012 #11

MrYikes

(720 posts)
1. Sorry to hear
Sun Apr 22, 2012, 12:02 PM
Apr 2012

about losing a home.
I had not heard about the pension problem. Do you have any links or info so that I might learn more?

MrYikes

(720 posts)
3. Hmmm
Sun Apr 22, 2012, 02:06 PM
Apr 2012

So to attract quality workers, the government promises to pay retirement, then through the years officials vote to not fund the pension adequately and now there is insufficient money to continue to pay the pensioners. The responsibility falls back on the officials to make up the amount, does it not? I mean personally responsible.

I thought it made the agenda transparent in the second link that they brought out a problem with the disability by denigrating one of the pensioners.

Thank you for the links and this thread. I was unaware.

REACTIVATED IN CT

(2,965 posts)
4. We have this prolem in CT too due to the Repuke admins we have
Sun Apr 22, 2012, 02:20 PM
Apr 2012

Our new Dem governor Dannel Malloy is working on fixing this issue.

THe low rate of return on investments recent;y hasn't helped his istuation either.

REACTIVATED IN CT

(2,965 posts)
6. These were in a daily newsletter I get at work
Mon Apr 23, 2012, 01:11 PM
Apr 2012
http://www.bondbuyer.com/issues/121_77/ravitch-brodsky-status-pension-obligations-1038831-1.html


Richard Ravitch and Richard Brodsky have experience with governmental fiscal trouble. Cities, counties and states continue to struggle with unfunded pension liabilities, prompting the question of whether pension obligations represent debt or values, a debate the pair recently engaged in.

“I don’t think pension benefits are a debt,” said Brodsky, a former New York State Assemblyman from New York City’s Westchester County suburbs. “We have to distinguish between debt and social and legal obligations we have to fill. It’s a complicated world out there. Who are you going to hit and who’s going to suffer?”

Brodsky, and other prominent New York leaders, including Ravitch, a former lieutenant governor, debated pensions, bankruptcy and other facets of municipal distress last week at the Benjamin N. Cardozo School of Law’s Samuel & Ronnie Heyman Center on Corporate Governance.



http://www.clevelandfed.org/Forefront/2012/winter/ff_2012_winter_10.cfm

Apparently public pension benefits are protected in some states:


"In at least 27 states, pension members' past and future accruals are protected, but to different degrees ... [thereby complicating] the task of modifying current members' pension plans. These states treat public pension plans as contracts that must conform to constitutional, statutory, or common law (the last of these was developed through court decisions interpreting statutes or constitutions)." (Federal Reserve Bank of Cleveland)

murphyj87

(649 posts)
7. My pensions...
Wed Apr 25, 2012, 12:49 AM
Apr 2012

My company pension, Canada Pension, and Old Age Security Pension amount to about $40,000 a year. Getting old in Canada isn't bad at all.

murphyj87

(649 posts)
9. and we have to add "u"s
Fri Apr 27, 2012, 02:20 PM
Apr 2012

to colour, flavour, harbour, honour, humour, labour, neighbour, rumour etc.

Also:

"re"s for "er"s - Litre, Centre, metre, etc

American - Indians, Canadians - First Nations

Americans -Eskimos, Canadians - Inuit

etc.

MrYikes

(720 posts)
10. Maybe
Sat Apr 28, 2012, 06:10 AM
Apr 2012

that's the big difference of the two countries:
Canada puts u in everything, America leaves u out of everything.

Beartracks

(13,564 posts)
11. What organizations help elderly folks in these situations?
Fri Jun 22, 2012, 07:31 PM
Jun 2012

My neighbors are at risk of losing their home, and I don't know how to help.

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