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3Hotdogs

(13,436 posts)
Sun Feb 6, 2022, 12:24 AM Feb 2022

"After you, young man." Said to me upon leaving the elevator. Yeah, I'm 79 and

I know I look like shit, compared to what I looked like when I was 20 or whenever. Fact: Last week I came across a photo of me when I was about 3. I was a cute little dickens then but so what?

"After you, young man," after deferring to me to leave the elevator.... condescending, patronizing and rude.. He was probably in his 50's...polite and I'm sure meant to be polite. Behind it is the negative interpretation, meaning he feels his age and his body is better than my age and my body and I shouldn't feel bad about being old and looking old and to himself, "He looks like shit, poor old fuck." Or maybe he thinks I feel bad because I am not 50 and maybe I would want to be like him. I don't want to be like him.. I enjoy my life as it is and hope it stays like this for the next 25 years.

In a sense, Young man or young lady...it's a joke but with an edge.... Ha, ha, I know you look like shit and I'm addressing you as if you don't. Now don't I seem like a nice guy?

Hell. Would you address and overweight person, "After you, slim."? Or a mentally challenged person, "Here, let me help you, Einstein."?

I'm proud of having reached my age and looking forward to being 80 in October. Given my family background, I have another 25 years to go and if I don't, so what?

Then this bring me to my cardiologist..... same thing. Enters the exam room every six months, , "How are you, young man?" Thing is, he is in his 60's and looks more like shit than I do.....nearly bald and what's left is grey.

I look forward to June, when I see him again.


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"After you, young man." Said to me upon leaving the elevator. Yeah, I'm 79 and (Original Post) 3Hotdogs Feb 2022 OP
I know, right? How about "After you, sir." dchill Feb 2022 #1
Next time just say "thanks pops"... Chicago1980 Feb 2022 #2
No. the reply should be "Thanks, asshole." nuxvomica Feb 2022 #10
I don't get the negative interpretation, elleng Feb 2022 #3
Nor do I. marybourg Feb 2022 #5
I'm 77, and must say my 'fault' is to be annoyed when people offer me assistance, elleng Feb 2022 #6
Same here. And glad of it. Not everything should be soo secondwind Feb 2022 #11
I don't either. One can see the wildflowers on the roadside or the trash. littlemissmartypants Feb 2022 #14
" One can see the wildflowers on the roadside or the trash" marybourg Feb 2022 #18
littlemissmartypants Feb 2022 #19
Same here. trof Mar 2022 #25
Thank you so much, by the way I took your daughter to dinner last night... Enter stage left Feb 2022 #4
Do we have to look for things to be offended by? Doodley Feb 2022 #7
Bingo. secondwind Feb 2022 #12
i'm always amused when someone says it to me orleans Feb 2022 #8
High on my pet peeve list. Nt jaysunb Feb 2022 #9
Must be a cultural thing DFW Feb 2022 #13
I get it lillypaddle Feb 2022 #15
LOL I get it too,,, KarenS Feb 2022 #17
It's a tie lillypaddle Feb 2022 #21
Hated it when I WAS young Lydiarose Mar 2022 #24
Interesting - some of the Hispanic people in my area will address me and older people 3Hotdogs Feb 2022 #16
They usually say Lydiarose Mar 2022 #22
When my Dad was in his eighties, he ran across a parking lot in the rain to get in a store. Midnight Writer Feb 2022 #20
You're right. Lydiarose Mar 2022 #23
What would be an acceptable phrase? Owl Apr 2022 #26
a simple, "Good afternoon." 3Hotdogs Apr 2022 #27

marybourg

(13,193 posts)
5. Nor do I.
Sun Feb 6, 2022, 01:06 AM
Feb 2022

And I'm 79 also. I'm occasionally addressed as "young lady" and take it in the spirit in which was offered.

elleng

(136,386 posts)
6. I'm 77, and must say my 'fault' is to be annoyed when people offer me assistance,
Sun Feb 6, 2022, 01:09 AM
Feb 2022

like @ grocery store parking lot! Ma'am!

littlemissmartypants

(25,622 posts)
14. I don't either. One can see the wildflowers on the roadside or the trash.
Sun Feb 6, 2022, 05:05 AM
Feb 2022

Whatever you focus your attention on, you strengthen.

And sometimes, a cigar is just a cigar.

marybourg

(13,193 posts)
18. " One can see the wildflowers on the roadside or the trash"
Sun Feb 6, 2022, 10:41 AM
Feb 2022

I like that. I’m going to try to remember that to respond with when I hear the all too frequent kind of negativity that surrounds us lately.

trof

(54,273 posts)
25. Same here.
Sun Mar 13, 2022, 07:08 PM
Mar 2022

But I don't like "80 years young" at birthday.
80 ain't young.
Period.
I'm an old man and I know it and feel it.
"You're only as old as you feel."
BULLSHIT
I feel 80.
Piss off.

Enter stage left

(3,825 posts)
4. Thank you so much, by the way I took your daughter to dinner last night...
Sun Feb 6, 2022, 12:56 AM
Feb 2022

and afterwards we went to my place and...she is "Really good!"

orleans

(35,062 posts)
8. i'm always amused when someone says it to me
Sun Feb 6, 2022, 01:41 AM
Feb 2022

they say it either with a happy tone and expression or a politeness. their tone isn't dripping with sarcasm when they speak those words -- and if it was i'd probably say "fuck you."

i hate the word ma'am.

DFW

(56,679 posts)
13. Must be a cultural thing
Sun Feb 6, 2022, 04:22 AM
Feb 2022

Here in Germany, people often address men they don’t know that way, no matter what their age. It’s just a way of finding a middle ground between stiff formality and impolite informality. I’ve addressed that way by Germans for 45 years. Here, it doesn’t raise an eyebrow no matter how old you are.

Lydiarose

(68 posts)
24. Hated it when I WAS young
Sat Mar 5, 2022, 03:00 PM
Mar 2022

At my first job as a financial analyst in a big corporation after getting my MBA, my boss called another department to tell them he was sending over a "young lady" to pick up some paperwork. It really took me aback. I looked at all the other financial analysts, mostly male, and wondered if he would have said "I'm sending over a young lad to pick some paperwork." No, he'd have said, "I'm sending over a man." He knew "girl" was offensive but couldn't bring himself to call me a woman because I was in my 20's. Why it was necessary to identify my gender, I don't know. He could have just said I'm sending over an analyst, but maybe he felt it would be confusing on the other end when a female arrived instead of an expected male? It really bothered me, but I didn't challenge it; he was a nice guy. But I puzzled over it for some time. Now, of course, it really puzzles me but not from the gender perspective but rather the age contradiction. As the other poster said, it now feels patronizing and condescending.

3Hotdogs

(13,436 posts)
16. Interesting - some of the Hispanic people in my area will address me and older people
Sun Feb 6, 2022, 07:39 AM
Feb 2022

as Papa or Mama, They are also usually older.

That one doesn't bother me.

Midnight Writer

(23,018 posts)
20. When my Dad was in his eighties, he ran across a parking lot in the rain to get in a store.
Sun Feb 6, 2022, 12:00 PM
Feb 2022

A guy saw this and said "That was some impressive run, young man!"

I bet I heard this story from him a hundred times, him beaming every time about how he was so athletic he was mistaken for a young man.

Lydiarose

(68 posts)
23. You're right.
Wed Mar 2, 2022, 04:39 PM
Mar 2022

I also find this comment very puzzling. I just don't get it. I don't think it's meant to be mean, or even to be funny. Maybe clever? But how? I just don't get the motivation for describing someone in a way that is the exact opposite of what they are. I get your two analogies (obesity and mentally challenged) and yet they don't quite hit the same tone; they seem derogatory. Whereas "young man" or "young lady" just makes no sense. And it seems to be said mostly by people just a bit younger, like a generation younger. I've never been called that by someone truly young like 20's - 40's. Seems to start late 50's to 60's. Maybe that was a thing for their generation. Maybe denial that they're nearing our age? JUST DON'T GET IT!

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