African American
Related: About this forumIt really upsets me down to my soul
when someone wants to credit a white man for a black man's efforts.
slumcamper
(1,700 posts)exist in the shadows of our history as written by whites. Racial hegemony is so deeply institutionalized.
Regardless of color, liberals understand this. You're in the good company of like-minded people.
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(4,713 posts)rbrnmw
(7,160 posts)SMDH
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brer cat
(26,048 posts)Anyone looking at the voting patterns knows that PoC put her over the top, so the anger and frustration is more intense against you. Hell, you didn't even listen when they told you what was in your best interest. The irony to me is that this group by and large was very interested in and receptive to the candidates at the start of the primaries. The opportunity was there, but lost. The anger now is misplaced, but what are you going to do? They have to place the blame somewhere, just not on the candidate, so you draw the short straw.
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Bohemianwriter
(978 posts)Apparently millions of votes from California to Brooklyn don't count.
Apperently, the Hillary camp thinks that they don't need the votes from Bernie supporters (the same campaign has used Karl Rovian tactics to smear while swiftboating the most progressive candidate in two generations).
Apparently, no good deed goes unpunished.
I wonder where this hatred towards Bernie Sanders, the most progressive candidate with a long record of standing with the African American caucus comes from.
I wonder where the hatred of his supporters (even his minority supporters) comes from. And what makes people think that their voices have no right to be heard, or their votes not counted.
calimary
(83,997 posts)You saw things through a very clear lens. You WERE right.
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LongtimeAZDem
(4,515 posts)these people even thought about Congressman Lewis.
I think they're just desperate to credit Senator Sanders with some kind of accomplishment. I really think it is a coping mechanism.
That doesn't excuse it, of course.
pnwmom
(109,464 posts)They still preferred to assign the credit elsewhere.
LongtimeAZDem
(4,515 posts)mcar
(43,376 posts)John Lewis is one of my heroes. The efforts to dismiss his actions are just...I don't have words.
lib87
(535 posts)I have no patience for Black erasure and feigning ignorance when called out on it.
ismnotwasm
(42,427 posts)My mind wants to say 'Why"?? But I know Why.
Quayblue
(1,045 posts)We've been hollering, screaming, RIP'ing, crying and dying for years.
And as much as people be like "Oh.. Black folks are so conservative."..an old-school black man stood up and was like "Fuck this noise. Fuck these guns. American people are dying."
And I know there was some behind the scenes stuff going on. But HE represented.
And I personally think the message was Black folks protest for ALL downtrodden folks. There is no cherry-picking of issues. We could never afford it and we would never want to see anyone else do the same.
*fans self and takes a damn seat*
rbrnmw
(7,160 posts)This Here
"Oh.. Black folks are so conservative."..an old-school black man stood up and was like "Fuck this noise. Fuck these guns. American people are dying."
And I know there was some behind the scenes stuff going on. But HE represented.
brer cat
(26,048 posts)but we all know that they can't take anything away from John Lewis. But I'm with you. I have walked away from a couple of threads because it was so bad.
lunamagica
(9,967 posts)Bohemianwriter
(978 posts)Cowering from behind, coming to a won battle later, and taking credit for the effort despite a long history of being against what has been strived for...
I am also disheartened how kids have been used in dirty campaigns and dehumanized to please the sensitivities of an easily frightened white middle class.
Reminds me of the myth about Florence Nightingale. An African American woman did all the actual work, while Florence Nightingale took the credit.
One last point:
The Stonewall riots.
Struggles where white, middle class cis-gender men given the credit by white cis-gender feminists trying to marginalize not only African Americans, but also trans people in general.
Any other examples?
These are just a few I can come up with on top of my head relevant to the civil rights struggles in USA where white people have tried to take credit for the efforts of minorities.
JonathanRackham
(1,604 posts)How many times has the black man been blamed for the white man's transgressions?
NWCorona
(8,541 posts)And with the hides being invisible now that is happening more and more.
I liked being able to see what was hidden for myself.
To your point. I agree! I learned that first hand when I learned of what "really" happened with Columbus and Lewis and Clark at a young age.