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sheshe2

(88,093 posts)
Thu Jul 7, 2016, 06:05 PM Jul 2016

All Black Men Look Alike.

Or at least that was what I got after reading a comment today.

There was a great thread praising Elijah Cummings today, for his role in the email hearing. A man I truly respect.

One post took exception to the man for this:

John Lewis Clarifies Comments on Bernie Sanders' Civil Rights Era Participation

"I was responding to a reporter's question who asked me to assess Sen. Sanders' civil rights record. I said that when I was leading and was at the center of pivotal actions within the Civil Rights Movement, I did not meet Sen. Bernie Sanders at any time," Lewis said in the statement.

"The fact that I did not meet him in the movement does not mean I doubted that Sen. Sanders participated in the Civil Rights Movement, neither was I attempting to disparage his activism," he added. "Thousands sacrificed in the 1960s whose names we will never know, and I have always given honor to their contribution."

http://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2016-election/john-lewis-clarifies-comments-bernie-sanders-civil-rights-era-participation-n518076

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Sadly the poster does not know the difference between Elijah and John. It is sad when they are lumped into one group, black men. It is sad that a black man is judged by the color of his skin and not the content of his heart and soul.

I have to say, when you can not tell the difference between Elijah and John, well you have some huge issues to deal with.

Elijah Cummings







John Lewis





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Peace and love to you all in the African American Group.



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All Black Men Look Alike. (Original Post) sheshe2 Jul 2016 OP
I'm not sure what I'm doing or saying... The Polack MSgt Jul 2016 #1
It was a cute little rant. sheshe2 Jul 2016 #3
Interchangeable dislike for any black man....seems like flagrant racism Sheepshank Jul 2016 #15
I glossed over what they said. sheshe2 Jul 2016 #23
Elijah Cummings is the one of the two that didn't tarnish his reputation. fbc Jul 2016 #2
You are trashing John Lewis here. sheshe2 Jul 2016 #4
My goodness The Polack MSgt Jul 2016 #5
Left................................. sheshe2 Jul 2016 #7
Do you have an issue with John Lewis? sheshe2 Jul 2016 #6
I can't agree with your OP title - but the idiot quoted in it probably does......... raven mad Jul 2016 #9
The Op title was a fact, sheshe2 Jul 2016 #18
It's not that I didn't agree with what was said to bring out the stupidity, raven mad Jul 2016 #20
I know that raven mad. sheshe2 Jul 2016 #22
Hugs right back atcha. raven mad Jul 2016 #24
...and Prince tarnished his legacy by making Under the Cherry Moon AllTooEasy Jul 2016 #8
Your mom, too? raven mad Jul 2016 #10
You didn't actually just say that?? mcar Jul 2016 #11
Yes and it stood. sheshe2 Jul 2016 #12
SMH mcar Jul 2016 #13
Twice. sheshe2 Jul 2016 #14
This... sheshe2 Jul 2016 #16
I hope I'm not included - I meant NO insult by raven mad Jul 2016 #25
I read no insult in your post, raven mad. sheshe2 Jul 2016 #27
Group host post Starry Messenger Jul 2016 #17
Thank You The Polack MSgt Jul 2016 #19
Thank you Starry. sheshe2 Jul 2016 #26
Thank you gwheezie Jul 2016 #28
Group Host Post JustAnotherGen Jul 2016 #31
Lol! sheshe2 Jul 2016 #32
I'm not sure what time it is in the US, I'm out of the country. Starry Messenger Jul 2016 #33
I certainly CAN tell the difference! BlueMTexpat Jul 2016 #21
You have Elijah. sheshe2 Jul 2016 #29
Congratulations on the BlueMTexpat Jul 2016 #30

The Polack MSgt

(13,449 posts)
1. I'm not sure what I'm doing or saying...
Thu Jul 7, 2016, 06:39 PM
Jul 2016

But my opinion must be heard!!!1!1!1/1!!

Christ on a crutch.

sheshe2

(88,093 posts)
3. It was a cute little rant.
Thu Jul 7, 2016, 06:54 PM
Jul 2016

I won't post more without a hide. I will say this, anyone that thinks John is less than nothing deserves a hide.

They are so politically unaware who Elijah and John are. They can't see past their skin color.

SMH!

 

Sheepshank

(12,504 posts)
15. Interchangeable dislike for any black man....seems like flagrant racism
Thu Jul 7, 2016, 11:44 PM
Jul 2016

.........Rather any attempt at making a politically moral stand.

sheshe2

(88,093 posts)
23. I glossed over what they said.
Fri Jul 8, 2016, 01:28 AM
Jul 2016
"Interchangeable dislike for any black man....seems like flagrant racism

.........Rather any attempt at making a politically moral stand.


Yes, sheepshank. Correct. Thanks.

 

fbc

(1,668 posts)
2. Elijah Cummings is the one of the two that didn't tarnish his reputation.
Thu Jul 7, 2016, 06:50 PM
Jul 2016

Pretty easy to tell the difference imo

sheshe2

(88,093 posts)
4. You are trashing John Lewis here.
Thu Jul 7, 2016, 07:04 PM
Jul 2016
Biography. Often called "one of the most courageous persons the Civil Rights Movement ever produced," John Lewis has dedicated his life to protecting human rights, securing civil liberties, and building what he calls "The Beloved Community” in America.




Biography | Congressman John Lewis

johnlewis.house.gov/john-lewis/biography


Biography



"John Lewis...is a genuine American hero and moral leader who commands widespread respect in the chamber."

Roll Call magazine

Often called "one of the most courageous persons the Civil Rights Movement ever produced," John Lewis has dedicated his life to protecting human rights, securing civil liberties, and building what he calls "The Beloved Community” in America. His dedication to the highest ethical standards and moral principles has won him the admiration of many of his colleagues on both sides of the aisle in the United States Congress.

He has been called "the conscience of the U.S. Congress,” and Roll Call magazine has said, "John Lewis…is a genuine American hero and moral leader who commands widespread respect in the chamber.”

He was born the son of sharecroppers on February 21, 1940, outside of Troy, Alabama. He grew up on his family's farm and attended segregated public schools in Pike County, Alabama. As a young boy, he was inspired by the activism surrounding the Montgomery Bus Boycott and the words of the Rev. Martin Luther King Jr., which he heard on radio broadcasts. In those pivotal moments, he made a decision to become a part of the Civil Rights Movement. Ever since then, he has remained at the vanguard of progressive social movements and the human rights struggle in the United States.

As a student at Fisk University, John Lewis organized sit-in demonstrations at segregated lunch counters in Nashville, Tennessee. In 1961, he volunteered to participate in the Freedom Rides, which challenged segregation at interstate bus terminals across the South. Lewis risked his life on those Rides many times by simply sitting in seats reserved for white patrons. He was also beaten severely by angry mobs and arrested by police for challenging the injustice of Jim Crow segregation in the South.


https://johnlewis.house.gov/john-lewis/biography


The Polack MSgt

(13,449 posts)
5. My goodness
Thu Jul 7, 2016, 08:03 PM
Jul 2016

Do you realise how self centered and petty that sounds?

"My awareness of the struggle for equality begins and ends at my wallet since 10 months ago"

What you sound like to all the rest of us.

sheshe2

(88,093 posts)
6. Do you have an issue with John Lewis?
Thu Jul 7, 2016, 08:04 PM
Jul 2016

I mean other than the fact that he endorsed Hillary.

You said...

Elijah Cummings is the one of the two that didn't tarnish his reputation.
Pretty easy to tell the difference imo


A civil rights icon trashed on DU for an endorsement of Hillary. He tarnished his reputation? How was that, oh wait he made his voice be heard. His voice and he sure as hell fought hard to make his voice heard, all PoC heard, yet you dismiss his voice, their voice. It was a long time coming and his fighting for civil rights and here you are telling him his vote does not matter.



You know the other thing sad, in my OP. The poster has no clue who John and Elijah are. They confused one with the other. They are just black men, they are one and the same, after all they look alike.

raven mad

(4,940 posts)
9. I can't agree with your OP title - but the idiot quoted in it probably does.........
Thu Jul 7, 2016, 08:36 PM
Jul 2016

Both are men of true integrity, intelligence and compassion. I have nothing but admiration for them.

Thanks for the post, sheshe2.

Rest in peace, Mr. Castile and Mr. Sterling - may your murderers get true justice.

sheshe2

(88,093 posts)
18. The Op title was a fact,
Fri Jul 8, 2016, 12:37 AM
Jul 2016

said poster mistook Elijah with John. So obviously to them all black men look alike.

Thanks so much for your comments, raven mad.

To Mr. Castile and Mr. Sterling pass in peace. For those that loved them and were left behind in their terror, may God grant them whatever peace they can find.

raven mad

(4,940 posts)
20. It's not that I didn't agree with what was said to bring out the stupidity,
Fri Jul 8, 2016, 12:47 AM
Jul 2016

I just don't understand how the idiots think that way.

Your postings are great, I've got you as a favorite.

sheshe2

(88,093 posts)
22. I know that raven mad.
Fri Jul 8, 2016, 01:18 AM
Jul 2016
This whole thing unfolding makes me incredibly sad.

On top of that a poster here has no clue who John and Elijah are. Yikes!

Hugs sweetie.

raven mad

(4,940 posts)
24. Hugs right back atcha.
Fri Jul 8, 2016, 01:34 AM
Jul 2016

I'm not kidding when I say my neighbors are horrified by ALL the "incidents" (2 murders and the shooting of cops) and that even goes for the ones that I pretty much consider Alaskan rednecks. That's a different classification here, meaning anyone can be one; fishing, camping, hiking, building a cabin, etc. gets you labeled redneck (and my favorite one is Pakistani, lives 2 houses down.)

This nation has GOT to come together and quit letting the racist right-wing neocon jerks and the media dictate what we're "supposed" to feel.

Love you, friend.

AllTooEasy

(1,261 posts)
8. ...and Prince tarnished his legacy by making Under the Cherry Moon
Thu Jul 7, 2016, 08:10 PM
Jul 2016

Seriously?! He tarnished his legacy because he didn't remember Bernie?!

I guess Lewis should have paid more attention to Bernie's well ventilated and climate controlled campus sit-ins 1,000 miles away, while Southern cops were trying to beat him to death.

Shit, why was Lewis hanging with MLK in the Deep South anyway, when he could have picketed with Bernie outside a Howard Johnson in the mean streets of Cicero, IL?!

In fact, Lewis should have noticed Bernie in the crowd at the March on Washington...while Lewis was speeching in front of the Lincoln Memorial. Hell, my Mom was also in the crowd. How come John doesn't remember her?!

You're right. Screw that guy!

raven mad

(4,940 posts)
10. Your mom, too?
Thu Jul 7, 2016, 08:37 PM
Jul 2016

You'd think he's at least notice and older, short, white lady with glasses and sandals on, wearing an Alaska flag and cheering the speakers!!! LOL!

mcar

(43,619 posts)
11. You didn't actually just say that??
Thu Jul 7, 2016, 08:41 PM
Jul 2016

And in this group?

You did not just say that.

sheshe2

(88,093 posts)
16. This...
Fri Jul 8, 2016, 12:23 AM
Jul 2016

Is the African American Group. Show some respect. I suggest you delete your post, yet I believe your White Privilege will tell you that it is your right to let it stand boldly where many white men have gone before.

You disrespect this group with your post.

raven mad

(4,940 posts)
25. I hope I'm not included - I meant NO insult by
Fri Jul 8, 2016, 01:36 AM
Jul 2016

having an issue with the title - I've heard way to many white men say that, and it always pisses me off.

sheshe2

(88,093 posts)
27. I read no insult in your post, raven mad.
Fri Jul 8, 2016, 02:00 AM
Jul 2016

Hell I am lily white!

I post here because the kind people here in AA have welcomed me. Being a Bogger helps, I love our President and I truly love all the members of AA. They are a welcoming group.

Starry Messenger

(32,375 posts)
17. Group host post
Fri Jul 8, 2016, 12:28 AM
Jul 2016


fbc
2. Elijah Cummings is the one of the two that didn't tarnish his reputation.
Pretty easy to tell the difference imo



Blocking poster.

The Polack MSgt

(13,449 posts)
19. Thank You
Fri Jul 8, 2016, 12:46 AM
Jul 2016

I love this group, and one of the reasons is how well the group is moderated.

You are doing great work

gwheezie

(3,580 posts)
28. Thank you
Fri Jul 8, 2016, 02:03 AM
Jul 2016

This is my group of sanity and refuge. I play in the forums but my heart is here. I was about to risk a hide but thank goodness I had enough sense and faith in this group to know you'd do the right thing.

Starry Messenger

(32,375 posts)
33. I'm not sure what time it is in the US, I'm out of the country.
Fri Jul 8, 2016, 10:02 AM
Jul 2016

Happy I popped in for a moment to escort that one out.

BlueMTexpat

(15,502 posts)
21. I certainly CAN tell the difference!
Fri Jul 8, 2016, 12:56 AM
Jul 2016

I am fortunate enough to have Elijah as MY Rep in Congress and oh, am I PROUD of him!

John Lewis is not my Rep. But I am also proud of HIM!

Both great AA Congressional Reps. I am closer to John Lewis age-wise; Elijah is several years younger than I.

When John Lewis was marching with MLK, Elijah was still attending school in Baltimore. Here is some interesting background about him, just after he mentions the legacy of AA union organizer A. Philip Randolph: http://cummingsforcongress.com/2014/02/12/cummings-black-history-month-2014-civil-rights-in-america/

My own family was among the Americans of color who benefitted from that expansion of opportunity.

Before my parents had a union to stand by them, they were forced to work as share croppers for 15 cents an hour near Manning, S.C. They moved to South Baltimore in the hope of forging a better life for their famil

Here, my father worked as a laborer at Davison Chemical Company. Although his work life was not free from prejudice or pain, his membership in the Chemical Workers’ Union assured his family of a dollar an hour, overtime pay and a health care plan.

That same union card helped my parents make the down payment on the home where my mother lives to this day, and allowed their children to attend the better schools that would transform our lives.


More at the link.

sheshe2

(88,093 posts)
29. You have Elijah.
Fri Jul 8, 2016, 02:18 AM
Jul 2016

Bless your heart, lucky you.

I skimmed the link....it is 3am. Will read more tomorrow.

Fyi...my sister's child just married into a Yuuuuge Union. He is not that far down from Trumka.



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