Sucks to be him.

I suppose he thought that with cops being attacked in more than one city, it was inflammatory. He's wrong, of course.

He might have a point if you found a photo of some hippie in 1968 with an "OFF THE PIGS" sign, but you have more class than that.

to add more names and faces.

Some days I just want to get off this planet.

make people uneasy.

The only way is to retire ALL the politicians and replace them with politicians who only want to serve the USA.

Yeah there is a lot of skullfucking going on in amurka.

Uh, let me rephrase that... The people who have been fucking skulls hither and yon are the people YELLING BACK at FACTS now.


The trouble is, there's a demographic of people who seriously don't want their fantasy America to change.

That's the people who seriously cling to their central, primal fantasy of the "official" Republican/Conservative party, with a proud resolve to protect that white-hot television sized image. It burns in the place between the brows, that some call the Third Eye.

They salute and grovel to the Party Networks that claim to fight for those sentimental engrams that run hot in deep gorges of neuronal tissues.

They're the people we see way too frequently. The skullfuckers.

Not being African American, I have never posted in this group before. We have got to be better than this.

I'm disgusted you'd be asked to remove it.

It's the truth!

Leave it and add to it.

How ignorant.

And that the perpetrators get off scot-free.

Just don't allow yourself to become a one issue person. There are other issues of great importance that need your support also.

What bullshit.

It's the truth.

Truth should never be censored.

And your sigline had nothing to do with what happened in Dallas. That was due to some major issues with one man's head having a lethal chemical reaction with the racism in this society.

I find it most appropriate given the current events and long term continuing tragedies.

Sorry someone accosted you with their objection to the facts of life in Murika.

Ignoring the facts doesn't make it go away.

don't be bullied by anyone.

for the sake of full disclosure, I'm white.... and I think that cops have entirely too much UNACCOUNTABLE power.... a cop can shoot someone and claim they felt their lives were in danger and never be convicted.... never be held accountable....

me in my car and a cop... the cop shoots the only other witness and guess who doesn't go to jail....

should I be shot because I tell a cop to kiss my a$$...? slapped up side the head maybe but shot dead....?

if a cop is a cop who shoots first and lies later then that cop shouldn't be a cop....

and I was banned once from democratic underground.. my old login still isn't usable.... i pi$$ed someone off with a reply.... this was about 5 years ago.....

so don't get banned... your voice is better as an active voice... just find a way to persuade that isn't considered abusive and you can do so...

so do cops murder people? based on my observation YES.... and I'm guessing the cops who do so simply shouldn't be cops.... but if a cop does shoot someone without cause that cop should be held accountable...

so the failure is when the person is hired as a cop.... it's a tough job, pay that isn't the best..... and you can be killed in an instant if you make a mistake....

it's a tough job but that doesn't mean that cops have to shoot first and ask questions later...

Do what is right.
I've honestly never been mesmerized by someone else's Sig line. Sometimes I'm curious but it's a short statement for some people that helps me understand where they're coming from.
It's bad enough being stalked for a post

Telling truth to power is indispensible in the modern world...

Hope you are not mad at me.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/10027999800

No one should disrespect those that died.

I love ya too.

Leave it. There's nothing offensive or against TOS. It's very appropriate.

had its origins in England where the stereotype was that the police wagons were full of no-account Irish. (paddy being a nickname for Irish -- from the name Patrick.)

done that and have the scars to prove it. In the American colonies there were plenty of Irish slaves as well as AA ones. Only the Irish slaves were called 'indentured servants' and their term of slavery was 7 years. Unfortunately, the AAs did not have that.

This country still needs to heal from slavery, and we haven't yet.

than 7 years if you had a baby while you were in service, because that child then belonged to the "master."

Also, most of those people never signed any contracts. They were simply swept off the streets in Ireland or England and shipped off to the colonies.

Women have Irish beat by thousands of years. If Christian Fundamentalists are correct with their creation myth then the second person created was the first person oppressed.

This changed by 1639 when Africans were listed in law as servants for life. There is no record of when the change was formalized.

Irish criminals were sent to the West Indies as slaves. The poor in England, Ireland and so forth were sent to northern colonies as indentures.

For someone with a slow connection. Unfortunately it is not big enough to clearly show the victims.

For anyone who objects, they can get an ad blocker and use it to block the image.

Keep your signature images!

Whether the image hits too close to home because it is true or whether they don't believe that when police kill it is murder, someone doesn't want to look at the issue.

It should stay.

I support you keeping your sigline just the way it is.

We already have plenty of posters chastising the protesters for being too disruptive. Now this shit?

What the fuck are people supposed to do? Sit quietly at home and wish real hard until the powers that be decide it's finally time to make the 14th Amendment a reality?

No way do you take it down.

Everyone should see it.

Consider the source.

I'm tired of trying to explain racism to folks..

If there are those who are unable to look at what is true, maybe they would be happier elsewhere

If it bothers them, they need to ask themselves why.

It's ticked me off enough to add it to my own sig line.



When this "civilized" nation gets its head out of its ass, and starts treating ALL citizens equally with dignity and respect, then there won't be a need for such signatures.

To the depths of hell with racist a-hole bullies.

now that *IS* offensive

seriously

HA!!!

It was carried in Seattle today too.

I think there are too many wrong killings of people, especially minorities, and some of those by police.

We need to do more to improve things - from the culture to the accountability of police and prevention to de-militarizing police.

However: I also think it's important we remember the larger issue and recognize this is one part of the issue, not the whole issue.

Far more people are wrongly killed by non-police and that's an issue as well things can be done to improve, but there's not a movement about those killings. There probably should be or rolled into this one.

But on police specifically, we should also remember what's missing from this picture - including that a similar banner could be made of police wrongly killed by people.

I'm not equating them - we should have a higher standard for police behavior, of course - but they deserve respect also.

And we should remember that most police do not do the wrong killings, but they do serve us at risk to themselves, and deserve oour appreciation.

Our approach needs to be one of 'we the non-violent people excluding the murderous people want to join with the majority of police who serve the public, and demand the issue of when police do wrongly kill people be addressed and reformed.'

Not one of 'the police are all wannabe murderers and the enemy', because it's not correct, or far - and by the way, would prevent the reforms we want.

That's a danger in movements like this - for a movement rightly against a problem to start to generalize and include the innocent police as much as the guilty, and that'd be a mistake. Let's fight the legitimate problem.

What is the issue?

were probably from the members of the hate site spun off by banned former members of DU.

They said I was insensitive and disrespecting their loved ones

I'm glad you left it up. The people it makes uncomfortable are the ones who need to be reminded the most.

I think of the speech Chief Seattle gave in 1854 (translators needed to translate from Chief Seattle's native Lushootseed to Chinook Jargon and then to English) at a reception for the new Commissioner of Indian Affairs for Washington Territory. Dr. Henry A. Smith took notes and his version was published in the Seattle Sunday Star a few decades later.

Every hillside, every valley, every plain and grove
has been hallowed by some fond memory or some sad experience of my tribe.
Even the rocks which seem to lie dumb along the seashore in solemn grandeur thrill with memories
of past events connected with the lives of my people.
And when the last red man shall have perished from the earth
and his memory among the white men shall have become a myth
these shores will swarm with the invisible dead of my tribe.
And when your children's children shall think themselves alone
in the fields, the store, the shop, upon the highway,
or in the silence of the pathless woods,
they will not be alone.
In all the earth there is no place dedicated to solitude.
At night when the streets of your cities and villages will be silent
and you think them deserted,
they will throng with returning hosts that once filled and still love this beautiful land.
The white man will never be alone.
Let him be just and deal kindly with my people
for the dead are not powerless.
Dead -- did I say?
There is no death, only a change of worlds.

(The whole speech, different version, can be seen at the Suquamish Tribe's website)
http://www.suquamish.nsn.us/HistoryCulture/Speech.aspx

They don't even want to see it. Jesus. We can't fix it if we can't talk about it. Maybe they feel like they're having to pick sides and are ultimately on team blue? I don't know. I can't figure out why people are having a hard time looking at this.

Alot of folks uncomfortable around here who want to hijack the narrative.

I love you sigline!

Many are offended by facts, and seek to censor those who provide them the facts. They just want to be happy, keep their heads in the sand, and not realize what is happening. Many have been banned from this site for truthfulness, stating that they were offending others with their statements.

Leave it up.

And you can always add this one.

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Ask me to remove it. PLEASE.

Actually, they will just remove it.

Ignore the poster -- those people WERE murdered by police.

'nuff said

If not downright stupid. I mean for somebody to ask you to do that. Free speech and true speech. Only the guilty should be irritated!

[font color="navy" face="Verdana"]I'm neither a member of this group nor African American, but I hope you allow me to contribute a most excellent video I saw yesterday. It really deserves to go viral to help knock off the blinders of those who still refuse to see.

This strong African American woman lays out the whole situation in a way that simply cannot be misunderstood by anyone:

https://www.facebook.com/RealProgressive/videos/1624202911242466/

[font color="navy" face="Verdana"]To make things right takes all of us, so I'm happy I could contribute.

K&R

Put it back.

Idiocy to take it down.

and for keeping it up.

Please don't remove it.

at worst a statement of opinion and, at best, the FRIGGIN TRUTH? (Lawyers might debate the definition of 'murder' but Michael Brown opened my eyes.)

DU'ers should know better than to argue with truth, and that pic is truth.

were added.

Rather than take offense to an image, the public should take offense to the slaughter of black lives.