rather than the strategies Ellison and Perez intend to utilize as DNC chair..


The distractions influencing the race already is annoying..

because

/start rant Republicans get away with pushing ridiculous people who have said worse into positions of leadership. Democrats need to stop sowing fucks like it's spring time and focus on the things worth giving a fuck about like:

what our ground game will be and who can light a fire among Dems and get us working hard, and who has the smarts to envision a new 50 state strategy. I also don't want a DNC chair who is on some godforsaken purity shtick. I don't want a Democrat version of the Tea Party, even if we adopt some of their tactics. /end rant

Very purity you are talking about in Ellison, and I wonder how he will prioritize conservative dems in conservative areas of the country

I don't want a Democrat version of the Tea Party. Tea Partiers are stupid and blinded by their ideology. They're morons.

We don't need a version of that on the left. Divisions need to heal, and that can only come about with rational, calm leadership. We all want the same things.

my view on him would be different. however, it's not my dislike for sanders that stands in my way, it is my belief backed up my multiple data points this election cycle, that the country does not want a sanders style socialist democracy. at best we want incremental changes made. so if ellison truly buys in to the sanders vision, in my estimation he is reading this election wrong, and therefore will not help us move forward in 2018 and 2020.

Nor is he a binary thinker.

If folks are hoping for a purge of the Dem party, Ellison is really going to disappoint them.

Really like his 2000 county strategy. Israel statements could come back to bite him even though they're not wrong. Perez is sounding pretty good, but need to learn more about him. Hate to say it, but he is probably "safer".

but his jumping on the Sanders bandwagon has made me not want to trust him. I feel like these Sanders supporters don't want to listen to our ideas because even if we were to get a 15.00 an hour wage not every employer is going to treat black folks on the same level.

My take, I think the Democratic Party is going through the same kind of soul-searching the Labour Party did post-Brexit. The fight over leadership there was much sharper and well-defined, but it has similar contours to what is taking place here. It's the same fight over the same group of people--"Did we appeal to the white people enough?"

I think Ellison's call to take Trump seriously as a threat makes him more than a mere Bernie-proxy in this battle, but I can see how for many he'd symbolize a sectarian grouping within the DP. I saw him up close at an event at Netroots a few years ago and really thought him a genuine person. One of the young AA workers he was mentoring in the Fight for 15 movement is now an elected council member in Missouri, maybe he will inspire more people to run for office.

Tom Perez was my hope for Hillary's VP, and I like him enormously and I think he's a tremendous progressive to boot--I don't know why people are saying he's some neo-lib moderate. I think some Bernie people are pushing back on him because he was an early endorser of Hillary, but he's used to running a large organization and creating issues to rally around. He's shaped progress for labor within the boundaries of what he could do quite impressively.

Like I said, hard call for me!

that i would probably be just fine with either of them

although, i think Perez is still my slight preference.

but allan dersowhitz is already saying he is evil because he said stuff about Israel. Even Garrison Keilor took time to diss him. As a Latino, I like Perez, but I really hope that the democrats are not buying the line some say that we have to de ehtnic the party.

I met him when he served on the Montgomery County (Maryland) Council and he's a really good guy.

Very bright.

Now if you asked me who I'd want in a perfect world, that would be Martin O'Malley.

Ideally I would like HRC.

She knows how to win majorities.

Mid Terms - the "real Americans" don't get to over ride the votes of people in NJ, NY, CA etc etc. I want them to sit there and eat their peas.

Focus on 2018 needs to be seating a House and Senate that can impeach Trump and cripple Pence.

Understand - I don't want anything to get done the next two years.

I dislike how it's basically become relitigating the primary by proxy when they're both very good on the merits. I have a mild preference for Ellison so that Perez (straight from my backyard) can run for MD Governor and maybe set himself up for a POTUS run in the future.

The text was fine but the subject sucked, imo.