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YoungDemCA

(5,714 posts)
Mon May 15, 2017, 03:12 PM May 2017

Re: police murders of PoC, the Klan and similar groups have members within many police departments..

Just look at the South through the Jim Crow and Civil Rights eras. And the South is far from alone in that regard. The Klan and other white supremacist groups have substantial overlap with the "Patriot" and Sovereign Citizens movements, along with the hard-line anti-immigrant and anti-Muslim crowd within the Republican Party (see: Trump's base and Tea Party assholes). And all of these have more overlap with police and law enforcement around the country than many (white) people would be willing to admit.

I am pretty fucking confident that some of these groups are operating just behind the public face of many police and sheriff's departments around the country...

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Re: police murders of PoC, the Klan and similar groups have members within many police departments.. (Original Post) YoungDemCA May 2017 OP
I read a govrnment report--forgot which--that says law enforcement has been inflitrated Blue Meany May 2017 #1
"a few outliers could push the culture of a department in that direction even if they weren't." YoungDemCA May 2017 #2
It's been known for awhile . . . rogue emissary May 2017 #3
Yes, the military has been another institution that these people have infiltrated. YoungDemCA May 2017 #4
I have no doubts heaven05 May 2017 #5
 

Blue Meany

(1,947 posts)
1. I read a govrnment report--forgot which--that says law enforcement has been inflitrated
Mon May 15, 2017, 03:52 PM
May 2017

nationally by white supremacist groups. A lot of them were probably already racists, but a few outliers could push the culture of a department in that direction even if they weren't.

 

YoungDemCA

(5,714 posts)
2. "a few outliers could push the culture of a department in that direction even if they weren't."
Mon May 15, 2017, 03:54 PM
May 2017

+1000. Exactly.

rogue emissary

(3,218 posts)
3. It's been known for awhile . . .
Mon May 15, 2017, 03:54 PM
May 2017

that militia groups and right wing extremist would encourage their members to enlist in the military. It was a way to gain weapons and tactical experience. They would join on the premise of know thy enemy as you know thyself.

So I don't doubt many of those same members transitioned into law enforcement. Especially, after the end of Clinton's terms and the beginning of W's term. I remember there were multiple news stories about the Army and Marines infiltrated by right wing extremist. There was a brief crackdown on those openly displaying the confederate flag for example. So the ones that were dismissed or left when they couldn't display confederate or nazi symbols had to have gone somewhere.

 

YoungDemCA

(5,714 posts)
4. Yes, the military has been another institution that these people have infiltrated.
Mon May 15, 2017, 03:56 PM
May 2017

Seems like the common element here is white male racists with guns.

 

heaven05

(18,124 posts)
5. I have no doubts
Mon May 15, 2017, 04:06 PM
May 2017

that police forces nationally have their klan/white militia contingents proudly 'serving and protecting' white people, harassing and murdering black people. Also I am going to have to see if I can find any reports about current racial strife within the military today, if there is a lot, it is kept exceedingly quiet. I know in my day, even in Vietnam there was racial/cultural division among the troops...confederate 'juicers' against the 'heads' and the soldiers of color....BUT the n word was not used by the ignorant as much because we were all armed.....

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