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La Lioness Priyanka

(53,866 posts)
Tue Jun 6, 2017, 09:49 AM Jun 2017

If white liberal men were as pugnacious in their defense of anti-racism as they are about Bill Maher

we would live in a better world.

(posted in the African American group for a reason, if you don't routinely post here, maybe don't make defense of n-word your first post in the AA group. Don't be that asshole)

*Some white men #notallwhitemen

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If white liberal men were as pugnacious in their defense of anti-racism as they are about Bill Maher (Original Post) La Lioness Priyanka Jun 2017 OP
Truth! irisblue Jun 2017 #1
+1000 brer cat Jun 2017 #2
it's been a horrorshow here, if people had the rare combo of intelligence and empathy La Lioness Priyanka Jun 2017 #3
Is Democratic Uunderground the single largest gathering place of Democrats and liberals Eliot Rosewater Jun 2017 #4
the fact that the admins do not ever seem to post about racial issues is also not helpful La Lioness Priyanka Jun 2017 #5
I cant find HBO doing anything, what did I miss? Eliot Rosewater Jun 2017 #6
following morning HBO released a statement about it La Lioness Priyanka Jun 2017 #7
The statement denounced him but he is not fired, right? Eliot Rosewater Jun 2017 #8
i have yet to meet a single person who says he or she voted for a democrat because of Bill Maher, La Lioness Priyanka Jun 2017 #9
I dont know, I do know that many of the voices on his show arent heard anywhere Eliot Rosewater Jun 2017 #10
I have heard each of his voices elsewhere often La Lioness Priyanka Jun 2017 #11
Not just race, they are silent as tombs on gender harassment of their own members as well Number23 Jun 2017 #14
Yup La Lioness Priyanka Jun 2017 #15
Of Course lib87 Jun 2017 #12
Yup La Lioness Priyanka Jun 2017 #13

brer cat

(26,479 posts)
2. +1000
Tue Jun 6, 2017, 10:32 AM
Jun 2017

I've been on DU long enough to know better, but I was nevertheless very surprised at the strong defense of Maher's offensive remark. How people who call themselves liberal, progressive or a Democrat could assert that it is ok to be in-your-face with a racist remark if you are a comedian or anyone just making a "joke" is beyond me. Otoh, some of these people may be the same ones who post on another "progressive" site where it was deemed appropriate to call Hillary a "c***."

I think what bothered me the most, LLP, were the white people who seemed to believe that Black people somehow don't know what is racist, some even going so far as to demand an apology from those who were offended! WTF? Whitesplainin' on steroids.

Yes, it would be a better world if white liberal men got a grip on the "isms" but I'm not going to hold my breath waiting for that glorious day.

 

La Lioness Priyanka

(53,866 posts)
3. it's been a horrorshow here, if people had the rare combo of intelligence and empathy
Tue Jun 6, 2017, 11:23 AM
Jun 2017

they would feel ashamed of themselves.

Eliot Rosewater

(32,537 posts)
4. Is Democratic Uunderground the single largest gathering place of Democrats and liberals
Tue Jun 6, 2017, 12:38 PM
Jun 2017

for political purposes on the internet?

I think it is.

Look at how many black posters, regulars, etc. who post here.

Less than a dozen? Out of thousands of DU posters?

So much to be learned from my point and the Maher thing, but I bet almost none of them will learn it.

 

La Lioness Priyanka

(53,866 posts)
5. the fact that the admins do not ever seem to post about racial issues is also not helpful
Tue Jun 6, 2017, 12:58 PM
Jun 2017

like, they could have come down on this, atleast as strongly as HBO did, but they choose not to do so.

Eliot Rosewater

(32,537 posts)
6. I cant find HBO doing anything, what did I miss?
Tue Jun 6, 2017, 01:32 PM
Jun 2017

Maher is an asshole, I dont like him but I do like his show.

He derides his audience all the time for not laughing.

He isnt funny really either, but we need that show, we have so little.

He is a privileged white guy, nothing new there.

 

La Lioness Priyanka

(53,866 posts)
7. following morning HBO released a statement about it
Tue Jun 6, 2017, 01:37 PM
Jun 2017

'but we need that show, we have so little. ' who is the WE who needs this show exactly? and why?

I live my life without this show just fine.

Eliot Rosewater

(32,537 posts)
8. The statement denounced him but he is not fired, right?
Tue Jun 6, 2017, 01:50 PM
Jun 2017

I meant we as in liberals, truth tellers, non cons.

I know lots of "us" dont like him, and I yell at him all the time, but the overall tone and show does do some good.

That is my opinion, based on how FEW chances truth tellers get on national TV.

But I respect opinions of others, for sure, on this, and I am talking about the show itself, not the ass himself. The show does give voice to resistance.

 

La Lioness Priyanka

(53,866 posts)
9. i have yet to meet a single person who says he or she voted for a democrat because of Bill Maher,
Tue Jun 6, 2017, 01:54 PM
Jun 2017

have you met such a person?

Eliot Rosewater

(32,537 posts)
10. I dont know, I do know that many of the voices on his show arent heard anywhere
Tue Jun 6, 2017, 03:04 PM
Jun 2017

else.

Or not usually anywhere else. voices of resistance.

There are simply not enough time on TV of people who tell the truth.

I dont know why we would be against a TV show that routinely has on liberal people who are part of the resistance. I look beyond Bill himself, he is an asshole.

Number23

(24,544 posts)
14. Not just race, they are silent as tombs on gender harassment of their own members as well
Wed Jun 21, 2017, 10:12 PM
Jun 2017

Reason number 852 that I'm hardly ever here anymore...

lib87

(535 posts)
12. Of Course
Tue Jun 6, 2017, 11:56 PM
Jun 2017

But racist liberals like their racial/gender hierarchy and aren't going to actively fight against it like Rs.

IMO After the maher threads this past weekend, there should be absolutely no confusion over why #45 won over certain demographics and what the motivation was.

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