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heaven05

(18,124 posts)
Mon Jul 3, 2017, 08:26 AM Jul 2017

'independence day'

Last edited Tue Jul 4, 2017, 10:26 AM - Edit history (1)

for whom I ask? With every human and civil right gained in amerika by POC under assault by the police and everyday citizens who are encouraged by those at the very top of our political class system, it seems those top people in amerika's political, justice, legislative branches who are earnestly trying to kill 22-25 million people by snatching needed health care from them are the only class who have 'independence'.

It will be mainly minorities who will suffer but a small solace I have is that I know people who voted this RW challenge to humanity's survival into office will suffer also. Independence day for whom I ask?

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'independence day' (Original Post) heaven05 Jul 2017 OP
I dont know what to say. I dont know what to do. Eliot Rosewater Jul 2017 #1
I am at the end of heaven05 Jul 2017 #4
I found this posted elsewhere, heaven sheshe2 Jul 2017 #2
thank you heaven05 Jul 2017 #3
That always resonated with me, I've never been into July 4th JHan Jul 2017 #5

Eliot Rosewater

(32,537 posts)
1. I dont know what to say. I dont know what to do.
Mon Jul 3, 2017, 11:27 AM
Jul 2017

When bad people are willing to commit violence, break the law and violate the constitution, including republican politicians, there is nothing you can do within the law.

It is time to start learning russian.

 

heaven05

(18,124 posts)
4. I am at the end of
Tue Jul 4, 2017, 09:09 AM
Jul 2017

understanding why people of a political Party can be so evil. The illusion Power is no excuse...but it is the reason....well, we have to resist all the way up to checkpoints and storm troopers in the streets burning shops and killing people at will, that are not like them. And then resist still with all our might. That's all I know.

sheshe2

(88,103 posts)
2. I found this posted elsewhere, heaven
Mon Jul 3, 2017, 02:47 PM
Jul 2017

"I say it with a sad sense of the disparity between us. I am not included within the pale of this glorious anniversary! Your high independence only reveals the immeasurable distance between us. The blessings in which you, this day, rejoice, are not enjoyed in common.-The rich inheritance of justice, liberty, prosperity and independence, bequeathed by your fa thers, is shared by you, not by me. The sunlight that brought light and healing to you, has brought stripes and death to me. This Fourth July is yours, not mine. You may rejoice, I must mourn. To drag a man in fetters into the grand illuminated temple of liberty, and call upon him to join you in joyous anthems, were inhuman mockery and sacrilegious irony. Do you mean, citizens, to mock me, by asking me to speak to-day? If so, there is a parallel to your conduct. And let me warn you that it is dangerous to copy the example of a nation whose crimes, towering up to heaven, were thrown down by the breath of the Almighty, burying that nation in irrevocable ruin! I can to-day take up the plaintive lament of a peeled and woe-smitten people!"

~Frederick Douglas



www.historyisaweapon.com/defcon1/douglassjuly4.html

 

heaven05

(18,124 posts)
3. thank you
Tue Jul 4, 2017, 09:05 AM
Jul 2017

for your clarity.... to Mr. Frederick Douglas...so true even to this day. and true for the legions of poor and downtrodden everywhere in this country. Sad that some don't feel the boot on their neck.

JHan

(10,173 posts)
5. That always resonated with me, I've never been into July 4th
Tue Jul 4, 2017, 11:46 AM
Jul 2017

Juneteenth is far more significant

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