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Kind of Blue

(8,709 posts) Wed Nov 7, 2018, 10:32 AM Nov 2018

Segregation is dead, how long, how violent, how expensive is the funeral

Heard a paraphrase of James Baldwin on Morning Joe. The quote comes from Baldwin's essay on the Civil Rights Movement after his meeting with MLK, titled "The Dangerous Road Before Martin Luther King."

"King is entirely right when he says that segregation is dead. The real question which faces the Republic is just how long, how violent, and how expensive the funeral is going to be; and this question it is up to the Republic to solve, it is not really in King’s hands.”

So my thought is, since racism is discussed casually these days in the media, I wonder if we at least will move to real discussions of not only merely dead but how to make it really and most sincerely dead? How long?

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Segregation is dead, how long, how violent, how expensive is the funeral (Original Post) Kind of Blue Nov 2018 OP

I'm a minority in my county greymattermom Nov 2018 #1

I'm sorry but I don't understand your response. Kind of Blue Nov 2018 #2

You're getting ahead of demographic trends. Whites won't be under 50%... brush Nov 2018 #3

So you mean that we have to wait another 15-20 years Kind of Blue Nov 2018 #5

Of course we don't have to wait to fight against it, just stating demographic projections. brush Nov 2018 #7

Okay, thanks for your feedback. Kind of Blue Nov 2018 #8

Maybe because you are not experiencing racism yourself everything looks fine to you . No problems lunasun Nov 2018 #4

Thanks, lunasun. I thought that's what she meant Kind of Blue Nov 2018 #6

greymattermom

(5,797 posts)

1. I'm a minority in my county

Reply to Kind of Blue (Original post)

Wed Nov 7, 2018, 10:34 AM

Nov 2018

and I'm white. Things are fine, the job gets done. Let's go back to calling all groups who are less than half the population "minority". Language has meaning.

Kind of Blue

(8,709 posts)

2. I'm sorry but I don't understand your response.

Reply to greymattermom (Reply #1)

Wed Nov 7, 2018, 10:39 AM

Nov 2018

I understand language has meaning but I'm not connecting the rest to that phrase.

brush

(58,016 posts)

3. You're getting ahead of demographic trends. Whites won't be under 50%...

Reply to greymattermom (Reply #1)

Wed Nov 7, 2018, 10:47 AM

Nov 2018

of the population for another 15-20 years or so.

After that we will be a truly minority majority country—unless you have some inside census data that it's already happened?

Kind of Blue

(8,709 posts)

5. So you mean that we have to wait another 15-20 years

Reply to brush (Reply #3)

Wed Nov 7, 2018, 11:11 AM

Nov 2018

and to become minority majority to finally move past discussing the obvious, that segregation still exists and how to kill it? I didn't see the whole segment of the panel discussion but the Baldwin question of over 50 years ago just lingered.

I have no inside census data.

brush

(58,016 posts)

7. Of course we don't have to wait to fight against it, just stating demographic projections.

Reply to Kind of Blue (Reply #5)

Wed Nov 7, 2018, 11:20 AM

Nov 2018

We've always known we have to use our heads to work around and outsmart the racists and racism in society.

We haven't waited and don't have to wait now.