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Related: About this forumLetter from a Region in My Mind - James Baldwin
From 1962: "Whatever white people do not know about Negroes reveals, precisely and inexorably, what they do not know about themselves."Long read here and the article itself but Baldwin's processing is invaluable.
Every Negro boyin my situation during those years, at leastwho reaches this point realizes, at once, profoundly, because he wants to live, that he stands in great peril and must find, with speed, a thing, a gimmick, to lift him out, to start him on his way. And it does not matter what the gimmick is. It was this last realization that terrified me andsince it revealed that the door opened on so many dangershelped to hurl me into the church. And, by an unforeseeable paradox, it was my career in the church that turned out, precisely, to be my gimmick.
He does not know what the boundary is, and he can get no explanation of it, which is frightening enough, but the fear he hears in the voices of his elders is more frightening still. The fear that I heard in my fathers voice, for example, when he realized that I really believed I could do anything a white boy could do, and had every intention of proving it, was not at all like the fear I heard when one of us was ill or had fallen down the stairs or strayed too far from the house. It was another fear, a fear that the child, in challenging the white worlds assumptions, was putting himself in the path of destruction. He reacts to the fear in his parents voices because his parents hold up the world for him and he has no protection without them. I defended myself, as I imagined, against the fear my father made me feel by remembering that he was very old-fashioned. Also, I prided myself on the fact that I already knew how to outwit him. To defend oneself against a fear is simply to insure that one will, one day, be conquered by it; fears must be faced. As for ones wits, it is just not true that one can live by themnot, that is, if one wishes really to live. That summer, in any case, all the fears with which I had grown up, and which were now a part of me and controlled my vision of the world, rose up like a wall between the world and me, and drove me into the church.
God had come a long way from the desertbut then so had Allah, though in a very different direction. God, going north, and rising on the wings of power, had become white, and Allah, out of power, and on the dark side of Heaven, had becomefor all practical purposes, anywayblack. Thus, in the realm of morals the role of Christianity has been, at best, ambivalent. Even leaving out of account the remarkable arrogance that assumed that the ways and morals of others were inferior to those of Christians, and that they therefore had every right, and could use any means, to change them, the collision between culturesand the schizophrenia in the mind of Christendomhad rendered the domain of morals as chartless as the sea once was, and as treacherous as the sea still is. It is not too much to say that whoever wishes to become a truly moral human being (and let us not ask whether or not this is possible; I think we must believe that it is possible) must first divorce himself from all the prohibitions, crimes, and hypocrisies of the Christian church. If the concept of God has any validity or any use, it can only be to make us larger, freer, and more loving. If God cannot do this, then it is time we got rid of Him."
https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/1962/11/17/letter-from-a-region-in-my-mind?mbid=nl_Daily%20112518&CNDID=24484742&utm_source=nl&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=Daily%20112518&utm_content=&utm_brand=tny&utm_mailing=Daily%20112518&hasha=2607eea3ca1bbd147d8f65fbe895cfcb&hashb=cbf08ce5eb3fb01a69828e9a5295ea78f5f022e3&spMailingID=14678164&spUserID=MTMzMTgyNTMxODYxS0&spJobID=1521940769&spReportId=MTUyMTk0MDc2OQS2
JHan
(10,173 posts)Kind of Blue
(8,709 posts)Well, great minds and all that
laserhaas
(7,805 posts)More sorely needed.
I, for one, contemplate what his reflections would be on Colin K.
Kind of Blue
(8,709 posts)that I think is what Baldwin would say - rather, did say, about Kapernick.
laserhaas
(7,805 posts)1968 was the tumultuous year, Mr. Baldwin's book also came out.
What did James Baldwin say about the Olympic glove protest of Smith & Carlos?
https://www.deejay.de/Peabody_%26_Sherman_James_Baldwin_SB12001_Vinyl__108759
Kind of Blue
(8,709 posts)But I did find an interesting article on San Jose University sports sociologist Harry Edward who advised Smith & Carlos on the track team there in the early years, and got to know Kaepernick as an adviser to the 49ers.
"As a rookie, Kaepernick, who had spent his entire life in predominantly white communities, came to Edwards for information. Edwards pointed him toward The Autobiography of Malcolm X. Toward James Baldwin. Toward the writings of Martin Luther King.
He went through a transition, just like we all did in my time, Edwards said. We were Negroes who became African Americans who began to look at experiences through completely different eyes.
https://www.sfchronicle.com/news/article/Mexico-City-protest-What-has-changed-in-50-years-13303583.php
And we know Kapernick knows Baldwin and I'd like to imagine Baldwin inspired Smith & Carlos, too
Link to tweet
laserhaas
(7,805 posts)And my hope for equality & Justice - wanes
These moments - warms my spirit
Kind of Blue
(8,709 posts)And it's all been said and analyzed to death for us to take heart. I'm glad that your spirit is buoyed by our extraordinary leaders, laserhaas
laserhaas
(7,805 posts)I was a B Ball player, all my young life. A welfare brat, during desegregation. When I went to NYC for my senior year, to get best recognition, I went to Julia Richmond, which was an all girls school before desegregation.
I was the only white guy.
The minority.
Despite centuries of oppression, nobody took their angst out on me. I did not suffer 1/100th of the racial hatred that is visible - this very day.
I not only adore civil rights leaders
My adoration includes you guys & gals who stand tall, with them; which has always been - a noble battle.
Kind of Blue
(8,709 posts)Then thought what does it matter, he feels, absorbs, obviously tries to integrate - correctly IMHO, what's experienced and witnessed in his environment that are factors in the lives of many, many people.
I've had and do have white and non-black people in my life who I don't have to explain a thing to. They amaze me because I'm like what is that thing that's caused you to understand mostly since childhood? Why haven't you waved it off, excused or struggled with it? The answer is always witnessing something that jarred them and/or just born with a bleeding heart
They are my allies because in one way or another they know our liberations are bound
laserhaas
(7,805 posts)Than NYC.
Also, I will get in the face of my black friends saying a white guy or gal couldn't possibly care enough - almost (emphasis on almost) as much as I would on any white being obtuse or translucent to the realities of oppression upon minorities.
IMO white privilege exists because all others education and unification is oppressed by those endowed with privilege.
The single most important way to 9vercome inequality, is via knowledge.
Kind of Blue
(8,709 posts)Indeed, I've had to do so with black friends as well especially with intra-bigoted issues. Not being born here, it's what I've faced but certainly not to the extent of white supremacy.
laserhaas
(7,805 posts)Kind of Blue
(8,709 posts)queen's birthday in the first year of Independence from British rule. Been here since I was 8.
Kind of Blue is my all-time favorite album
laserhaas
(7,805 posts)laserhaas
(7,805 posts)Knowledge, I mean education in the - non traditional sense.
IMO our current educational system is Caucasian made
You won't see James Baldwin's books or videos being focused up in as part of any regular high school curriculum.
As a matter of fact, any teacher who would do so might be sanctioned.
We must grass roots higher learning for all.
Kind of Blue
(8,709 posts)I was pretty lucky in high-school, an all-girls Catholic school of all places. I know for a fact that my English/History teachers were the first in our area to introduce Baldwin, Wright, Angelou, Hurston, just a milieu of African-American authors and one from my country, Chinua Achebe, as well as heated discussions of enslavement of Africans and 1st Nations People. As far as Theology, which is what this Baldwin article concerns, my priests/teachers were very open to prodding though I know I exasperated them.
It was shocking to me that this sort of education, except for Theology, was not a regular part of the curriculum. Unless you went onto higher education and sought it out otherwise many of us just read and shared information whether we were in school or not.
So yes, we've had to teach our own kids/nieces/nephews because they were getting distorted information from school. I'm so proud of them because they're not afraid/ashamed of their African roots on both sides of the Atlantic and ready to lay out facts to their friends faster than I could ever imagine.
laserhaas
(7,805 posts)Kind of Blue
(8,709 posts)I've done so many times in the past but mostly going to elementary schools to help out with art/art history. I'm so pleased to be able to do so again thru an African-American Women's organization in my new area. And right now they need history people in high school! First meeting is tonight and I'm so freakin' excited. The kids I know will keep me on my toes!
Sometimes the universe delivers exactly what you need and want.
laserhaas
(7,805 posts)Its the one thing that keeps me going against Sachs & Mitt
We need Justice in our eToys case.
Too bad it didn't happen before the demise of Toys R Us
laserhaas
(7,805 posts)Kind of Blue
(8,709 posts)The Republic Strikes Back
laserhaas
(7,805 posts)Was a mimicking of our pettiness
Kind of Blue
(8,709 posts)I did it to myself.
The late great Joseph Campbell, professor of comparative mythology and religion as well as an adviser to George Lucas, covered what you've said in The Power of Myth series of interviews of many years ago. All of it a reflection of us, a little bit of it below. But it's Been time for certain powerful myths and maybe the powerful corruption of religion, too, to go.
laserhaas
(7,805 posts)I thought it was - slightly - possible
Kind of Blue
(8,709 posts)This has been a good Friday Eve so far with all the great breaking news. I'm not holding my breath that all of it is a breakthrough to chip away at racism but it's satisfying when racist misogynist bastards fail.