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JustAnotherGen

(33,785 posts)
Sun Jun 16, 2019, 02:29 PM Jun 2019

The Police *report* on the Phoenix couple

https://www.azcentral.com/story/news/local/phoenix/2019/06/14/phoenix-police-release-report-controversial-response-shoplifting-incident/1461089001/

It's not lost on me - the cops didn't have their body cameras on.

No cameras? Then nothing they say is the truth.

Wouldn't a dash cam or store video show underwear being thrown out a window?

And then they *thought* the couple were reaching for weapons?

How did the infant the mother was holding get *dead arm* and injured if officer Christopher Meyers was so polite as to offer to let the mother place her child in shade?

This doesn't make sense. Their police report doesn't make sense.
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The Police *report* on the Phoenix couple (Original Post) JustAnotherGen Jun 2019 OP
even if they HAD shoplifted, they should not have been threatened with "a cap in the head" Demovictory9 Jun 2019 #1
Another 10 million settlement Wellstone ruled Jun 2019 #2
I really believe JustAnotherGen Jun 2019 #4
Everyone that has a gun should be licensed and insured just like with autos Oppaloopa Jun 2019 #6
Don't disagree - but police officers JustAnotherGen Jun 2019 #23
Nope atreides1 Jun 2019 #5
Don't mean Wellstone ruled Jun 2019 #9
In a way, some cops and police departments remind me of Republican politicians.... KY_EnviroGuy Jun 2019 #12
Do not elect sheriffs and mayors that allow it. safeinOhio Jun 2019 #14
Something I learned by Wellstone ruled Jun 2019 #18
Gangs protect their members. safeinOhio Jun 2019 #19
Oldest son's Detective friend Wellstone ruled Jun 2019 #20
I don't get it Lotusflower70 Jun 2019 #3
I just heard on Rev Al's show that this department will get body cameras "next week" Rhiannon12866 Jun 2019 #13
I'm calling Bullshit on this police report! tulipsandroses Jun 2019 #7
I friggin hate cops. They are pigs most of them. Dream Girl Jun 2019 #8
I hope this family wins their case locks Jun 2019 #10
ACAB. WhiskeyGrinder Jun 2019 #11
You had to be there. Phoenix cops do a lot of dirt. And the sheriff's office is even worse. marble falls Jun 2019 #15
They lie like a rug... Hulk Jun 2019 #16
Another thing that doesn't make sense in that report LiberalLovinLug Jun 2019 #17
Me too JustAnotherGen Jun 2019 #22
Fuck them. 47of74 Jun 2019 #21

Demovictory9

(33,947 posts)
1. even if they HAD shoplifted, they should not have been threatened with "a cap in the head"
Sun Jun 16, 2019, 02:43 PM
Jun 2019

the driver followed all instructions, still thrown against the car, kicked, hit, and screamed at.

police report said they were "combative"... they clearly were not

JustAnotherGen

(33,785 posts)
4. I really believe
Sun Jun 16, 2019, 03:09 PM
Jun 2019

Police Officers should be licensed and have to carry insurance.

I don't care how, what obstacles are in the way, how it's anti union blah blah blah.

Put the financial burden on the individual.

JustAnotherGen

(33,785 posts)
23. Don't disagree - but police officers
Mon Jun 17, 2019, 05:28 AM
Jun 2019


Need a very specific malpractice insurance. It goes beyond the gun. Eric Garner was choked to death.

I didn't sign up for a job that requires me to put my hands on people.

That responsibility carries a weight beyond the individual.

When a cop chokes someone in a black neighborhood in NYC - the neighborhood pays the settlement too.

I'm sure there is a wink and nod among the Union of - don't worry. You aren't personally financially liable.

I can't imagine a top tier hospital has that same wink and nod among heart surgeons - who also signed up to use their hands for the greater good.

Police Officer Malpractice Insurance is doable - General Population is not.

I would also like to see people start suing the police unions when it's found they have protected a repeat offender who ends up murdering someone.

atreides1

(16,433 posts)
5. Nope
Sun Jun 16, 2019, 03:10 PM
Jun 2019

This has nothing to do with Maricopa County...this is all on the City of Phoenix!


If it was the sheriff's department, then the county taxpayers would be footing the bill...but Phoenix PD is in this all by itself!

 

Wellstone ruled

(34,661 posts)
9. Don't mean
Sun Jun 16, 2019, 04:35 PM
Jun 2019

to bust your statement but,who do you think pays Phoenix PD,the friggin Taxpayers of Maricopa County as well as the state of Arizona via Property and Sales Taxes. Most likely they have a Catastrophic Self Insured plan that most likely has a Per Time Dollar Cap. All those folks in Phoenix get ready for Special Tax added to their Property or Utility Bills.

Nothing changes until these Bullies with Badges get their sorry butts fired and are not allowed another Job in Law Enforcement. Said this before,sorry to say,all the Bad Apples from up North end up here in the Southwest.

KY_EnviroGuy

(14,606 posts)
12. In a way, some cops and police departments remind me of Republican politicians....
Sun Jun 16, 2019, 05:05 PM
Jun 2019

in that any means justifies the end. There's a corrupt mindset that the status quo must be protected for the overall good of the people, so malfeasance is covered up or disregarded. That disease may apply only to an individual cop, or may be spread throughout the entire department and even the city government.

Regardless, it's still corrupt thinking and contrary to fair justice.....

safeinOhio

(34,276 posts)
14. Do not elect sheriffs and mayors that allow it.
Sun Jun 16, 2019, 05:07 PM
Jun 2019

That is where the buck stops. Only elect those that run on police reform to save your tax dollars.

 

Wellstone ruled

(34,661 posts)
18. Something I learned by
Sun Jun 16, 2019, 05:26 PM
Jun 2019

asking a question as to how these bad apples get new assignments in other Cities. Understand the Police Union is very successful in sealing discharged persons files and the Hiring people only get name rank and number,and the baggage is buried never to be seen.

Same for disbarred Lawyers and Accountants.

 

Wellstone ruled

(34,661 posts)
20. Oldest son's Detective friend
Sun Jun 16, 2019, 05:46 PM
Jun 2019

tried his best to get rid of a dirty Cop but, he ended up a Suicide victim instead. Once the power players got wind of the who what and where. The Crap got so intense and the result was a twenty year Guy did himself in.

Lotusflower70

(3,093 posts)
3. I don't get it
Sun Jun 16, 2019, 02:52 PM
Jun 2019

What is the point of body cameras if they can turn them on and off whenever they want? It's complete and utter bullshit how this situation was handled. A pregnant woman holding a baby, seriously come on now? And to the pathetic person that called in the report, it's absolutely ridiculous. It's a good thing people were out and about filming it. Sad but true.

tulipsandroses

(6,240 posts)
7. I'm calling Bullshit on this police report!
Sun Jun 16, 2019, 04:06 PM
Jun 2019

Another they were reaching for weapons my life was in danger so I had to use excessive force bullshit excuse. GTFOH!

locks

(2,012 posts)
10. I hope this family wins their case
Sun Jun 16, 2019, 04:50 PM
Jun 2019

If they actually shoplifted underwear and a baby doll and have to pay back two dollars to the dollar store they will get only $9,999,998 plus (we can only hope) an apology from the Phoenix police.

 

Hulk

(6,699 posts)
16. They lie like a rug...
Sun Jun 16, 2019, 05:16 PM
Jun 2019

...and the union backs these thugs up no matter how awful they are.

Really gives unions a bad name.

LiberalLovinLug

(14,383 posts)
17. Another thing that doesn't make sense in that report
Sun Jun 16, 2019, 05:23 PM
Jun 2019
She told the officer she wouldn't put her hands up because her two children were seated in the backseat of the car. She kept her hands down by the seat.

Uh....I quite clearly heard her more than once cry out that she couldn't put her hands up because she was holding a baby.
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