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JustAnotherGen

(33,785 posts)
Mon Jun 17, 2019, 09:09 AM Jun 2019

White People Want Trump (The Root Article)

Okay - let's get this out of the way first since it is Democratic Underground and our Political Connects who HAPPEN to be White would rather take a hot poker and put it in one ear and out the other before voting for Trump but the fact remains - white voters want Trump.

https://www.theroot.com/white-people-want-trump-1835458008


White People Want Trump

The 10,796 false or misleading statements don’t matter. The Muslim travel ban doesn’t matter. It doesn’t matter that his administration literally locked children in cages. That the most powerful man in the country sat in an official meeting and insisted that some black immigrants come from shithole countries doesn’t matter. Excusing white supremacist violence doesn’t matter. His ignorance of how tariffs work doesn’t matter. His lies about immigration statistics, crime, and drugs crossing the border don’t matter.


10,706 Fales or Misleading statements or as we call it in our house -
LIES

Neither does his suspiciously opaque relationship with Vladimir Putin. Or his praise for strongarm dictators. Or his buffoonish actions on the world stage. Or his insults. Or his porn-star payoffs. Or seating a foreign agent on the national security council. Or hiring neo-Nazis as advisors. Or hiring alt-right propagandists as advisors. None of it matters
White people don’t care.

Yes, Virginia. There is a white vote.

In a June 12 national survey of registered voters, Quinnipiac University pollsters matched Donald Trump against the top Democratic presidential candidates: Joe Biden, Bernie Sanders, Elizabeth Warren, Kamala Harris, Pete Buttigieg and Cory Booker. News outlets across the country including CNN, Newsweek and the Washington Post have reported on the results—namely, that Donald Trump loses against every single one of the candidates by a relatively large margin. But relatively few have mentioned that regardless of the presidential final round matchup, one thing remains true:

White people are going to vote for Trump.


YouGov / Economist Joint Poll referenced in The Root article:
https://d25d2506sfb94s.cloudfront.net/cumulus_uploads/document/b0wzlf9avh/econTabReport.pdf

*Most of Trump’s support comes from white voters
*These voters do not hold a college degree
*White men in particular are in this category of Voter.
*Blacks, Asians, Hispanics - every single other 'category' would support any candidate other than Trump.

Now - I posted this in the AfAm Group for a reason. I don't vote in the Primary until June of next year.

I'm politically astute and pay attention.

As our Democratic White Allies push their candidates early in the race - take care to not attack the opponents or their supporters - also don't speak down to black voters.

Black Women Voters.

Tear your hair out, gnash your teeth, throw a tantrum - we are voting for the Democratic Candidate. It does not matter if he is gay, if he is in his 70's, she's the daughter of immigrants, she was a Republican in the 1990's, he or she has only ever been a Senator, she's a spiritualist, etc. etc. and so on and so forth.

We know - beyond a shadow of the doubt - that it was not economic anxiety.

It's the racism stupid. It was retaliation for Obama. They were 'left behind'. They were looked down upon. No one listened to them. Etc. etc.

Try being black or latin x or Asian, or a woman, or gay or on and on and on - then cry me a fucking river.

Retaliation is coming.
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White People Want Trump (The Root Article) (Original Post) JustAnotherGen Jun 2019 OP
Racism is real. Shell_Seas Jun 2019 #1
+1! Dustlawyer Jun 2019 #2
Economic anxiety is a hell of a disease! robbedvoter Jun 2019 #3
Best analysis ever! JustAnotherGen Jun 2019 #10
Post of the day!! nt brer cat Jun 2019 #27
100%. oasis Jun 2019 #4
What good is a post like this? Is it to get lot's of replies? wasupaloopa Jun 2019 #5
Actually - it was to see how many JustAnotherGen Jun 2019 #8
My reply is because these posts are bull shit and wasupaloopa Jun 2019 #12
Let me clear my throat JustAnotherGen Jun 2019 #13
Ok what does "white people want trump" mean? wasupaloopa Jun 2019 #16
Okay JustAnotherGen Jun 2019 #21
Just enough of them that it takes every non white person and Afromania Jun 2019 #28
Another White guy - I totally agree with this. Trump is a good representation of their philosophy. walkingman Jun 2019 #6
Please what the hell is "white philosophy"? wasupaloopa Jun 2019 #17
Indeed - more of a ideology that is based upon privilege and superiority. walkingman Jun 2019 #20
I've blocked him from responding JustAnotherGen Jun 2019 #23
Sorry I'm late to the party JAG. I've been on the road lately The Polack MSgt Jun 2019 #30
How sensitive of you. ehrnst Jun 2019 #32
I'm not sure it matters, though Delarage Jun 2019 #7
Amen - especially this JustAnotherGen Jun 2019 #9
More white women voted for trump than Clinton if you need a link I'll find one not just males lunasun Jun 2019 #11
Also it's less horrifying The Mouth Jul 2019 #43
I posted a link to this yesterday . I think the actual breakdown of all those polls is lunasun Jun 2019 #14
Thank you JustAnotherGen Jun 2019 #15
No mine was just a posted reply with a link and the numbers .Thank you for making it an OP @du lunasun Jun 2019 #18
Hear! Hear! Break it down. Kind of Blue Jun 2019 #19
Every single white voter needs to read this Recursion Jun 2019 #22
Insulting sophistry. Any white person who believes he Hortensis Jun 2019 #24
sophistry DonCoquixote Jun 2019 #25
I accidentally posted from the "latest threads" forum Hortensis Jun 2019 #29
Why wouldn't it belong in GD? JustAnotherGen Jun 2019 #33
I know some of the people who once made this DU's Hortensis Jun 2019 #35
Wow, Hortensis, your ability to obfuscate and deflect Kind of Blue Jun 2019 #36
It's blatant eh? JustAnotherGen Jun 2019 #38
You got a way with words. Kind of Blue Jun 2019 #39
One of them emailed me the article JustAnotherGen Jun 2019 #37
"It's the racism stupid." brer cat Jun 2019 #26
Thank you JustAnotherGen Jun 2019 #34
Excellent Op. sheshe2 Jun 2019 #31
THIS is why we have Trump. THIS Is the biggest problem in this country and why it's hard to get JI7 Jun 2019 #40
White people, who make up the majority of the US population, electorate, and voters. GuyNamedNathan Jul 2019 #41
For now JustAnotherGen Jul 2019 #42

robbedvoter

(28,290 posts)
3. Economic anxiety is a hell of a disease!
Mon Jun 17, 2019, 09:26 AM
Jun 2019

Seems it genetically attaches itself to whites - mostly men. We need a telethon.

 

wasupaloopa

(4,516 posts)
5. What good is a post like this? Is it to get lot's of replies?
Mon Jun 17, 2019, 09:31 AM
Jun 2019

How many white people are there in the US? They all want trump? All but me I guess.

JustAnotherGen

(33,785 posts)
8. Actually - it was to see how many
Mon Jun 17, 2019, 09:45 AM
Jun 2019
People would skip over the first paragraph!



Seriously though - there is too much time being spent on minority voters by white journalists at the Times, WaPo, etc. etc.

We should not be caught unaware ever again. If we DON'T discuss it and if black Democrats who DO read The Root don't share it with our fellow non-black Democratic Party members -

We are doing you a disservice.

Now - my questions for you are -

What purpose did your post have?

What is your interest in questioning my voice or - my - interest?

What do you gain from that?

How does it benefit you or your fellow Democratics?


We are having the Talk. No not 'that one'. However it is very similar. Stay aware of what the opposition will do if you do not keep your hands on the dashboard.
 

wasupaloopa

(4,516 posts)
12. My reply is because these posts are bull shit and
Mon Jun 17, 2019, 09:51 AM
Jun 2019

the writers know it.

I wonder what the motive is. It surely isn’t to impart some knowledge or wisdom. It is about as honest as a trump statement.

So what is the purpose? To get reactions I would guess.

Who is the intended audience? What idea is trying to be communicated?

JustAnotherGen

(33,785 posts)
13. Let me clear my throat
Mon Jun 17, 2019, 10:02 AM
Jun 2019
ETA - wasaloopa said
My reply is because these posts are bull shit and the writers know it.



My reply is because these posts are bull shit and the writers know it.
I wrote it, it was the topic of discussion at an Anti-Racism Coalition meeting this weekend, and was discussed on the Joe Madison show this morning.

I wonder what the motive is.
On a go forward basis - would you like me to get your permission first?

It surely isn’t to impart some knowledge or wisdom.
That's your opinion. Your disruptive option. Regardless . . .


It is about as honest as a trump statement.

Let me be honest with you - Mother Fucker 45 is Inferior to Me. On every single metric. It is inferior.

It is a dimwitted, morally inferior racist. How DARE YOU compare a human being such as myself to Itself the Mother Fucker 45.


So what is the purpose? To get reactions I would guess.


Wow. You are blowing my mind with your intensity.


Who is the intended audience?
The African American Group at DU and our allies. I don't know if you are aware of that - so I'm going to continue to allow you to post and read here, as you might learn something.



What idea is trying to be communicated?


The sole purpose was to irritate you. I spent hours poring over the member list of DU and decided - I really really really want to ENRAGE whatshisface today - so I'm going to post this. It's all about you.

Anything else?
 

wasupaloopa

(4,516 posts)
16. Ok what does "white people want trump" mean?
Mon Jun 17, 2019, 10:13 AM
Jun 2019

Surely you don’t believe all white people want trump or do you?

What white people then?

And if you don’t want me to post here so be it.

JustAnotherGen

(33,785 posts)
21. Okay
Mon Jun 17, 2019, 10:43 AM
Jun 2019

Bye

And if you don’t want me to post here so be it.


Hostile, disruptive to the Group.

ETA for other hosts - full post -


16. Ok what does "white people want trump" mean?

Surely you don’t believe all white people want trump or do you?

What white people then?

And if you don’t want me to post here so be it.


Afromania

(2,795 posts)
28. Just enough of them that it takes every non white person and
Mon Jun 17, 2019, 12:06 PM
Jun 2019

every sane white person to keep it in check. Might not be all white people but it is the greater majority.

walkingman

(8,537 posts)
6. Another White guy - I totally agree with this. Trump is a good representation of their philosophy.
Mon Jun 17, 2019, 09:34 AM
Jun 2019

At least that is what I see and hear in Texas. I call the GOP the WPP (White People's Party). That has been the case since the civil rights movement in the 60's.

"When You’re Accustomed to Privilege, Equality Feels Like Oppression"

 

wasupaloopa

(4,516 posts)
17. Please what the hell is "white philosophy"?
Mon Jun 17, 2019, 10:15 AM
Jun 2019

On what planet would that even be considered intellectual thought?

JustAnotherGen

(33,785 posts)
23. I've blocked him from responding
Mon Jun 17, 2019, 10:45 AM
Jun 2019

Just an FYI - that's one that has had a long history of disruption in the group.

Must have forgot I was a group host.

The Polack MSgt

(13,450 posts)
30. Sorry I'm late to the party JAG. I've been on the road lately
Mon Jun 17, 2019, 01:27 PM
Jun 2019

And I've been scarce to see in DU lately

I'm glad to see you here though. Thanks for doing the housekeeping

Delarage

(2,354 posts)
7. I'm not sure it matters, though
Mon Jun 17, 2019, 09:35 AM
Jun 2019

Hillary won the popular vote and, without election interference and voter suppression and God knows what else, would've won the electoral vote, too.

It's like saying Gore lost because of Bill Clinton. He lost because of Katherine Harris, Jeb Bush, Palm Beach County, and the Supreme Court.

Maybe many/most white males are mouth-breathers who watch Faux News (not THIS white male voter) but there are enough of us educated progressives to win every national election---if all of our votes count and our election is clean. But I guess enough of them did vote for 45 that it made it easier for Putin's finger on the scale to not be as obvious as it should have been (ALL the polls were wrong?!?!).

JustAnotherGen

(33,785 posts)
9. Amen - especially this
Mon Jun 17, 2019, 09:47 AM
Jun 2019
there are enough of us educated progressives to win every national election---if all of our votes count and our election is clean. But I guess enough of them did vote for 45 that it made it easier for Putin's finger on the scale to not be as obvious as it should have been


As many votes as possible.

I'm hopeful this time as both MI and WI now have Democratic Governors.

lunasun

(21,646 posts)
11. More white women voted for trump than Clinton if you need a link I'll find one not just males
Mon Jun 17, 2019, 09:48 AM
Jun 2019

The Mouth

(3,303 posts)
43. Also it's less horrifying
Mon Jul 22, 2019, 03:13 PM
Jul 2019

to believe that the Russians hacked a few computers than that all those people really loved his message. The former is a pisser, the latter can make one suicidal.

lunasun

(21,646 posts)
14. I posted a link to this yesterday . I think the actual breakdown of all those polls is
Mon Jun 17, 2019, 10:04 AM
Jun 2019

what needs to be posted here from that article because it’s not just the Economist poll
So I will post again for skimmers of posts who don’t click on your root link I hope that’s ok
https://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=12195086
This from The Root-
Quinnipiac poll:
Among white registered voters, Trump beat Biden by one percentage point (46 to 47) which is within the margin of error.
But Trump won the white vote by six to ten points when matched up every other Democratic presidential candidate.

The Quinnipiac poll is not an outlier.
In a Politico/Morning Consult poll, Trump again landed within the margin of error when white voters were asked to choose between him and Joe Biden.
But he won the white vote with every other Democratic contender even though the majority of them disapprove of the job he is doing as president.
A poll conducted by The Economist and YouGov from June 9-11 shows that white voters would vote for Donald Trump versus a generic Democratic candidate by a margin of 10 points.

My point when posting yesterday was in response to how trump can win which imo is fear or some other manufactured trigger for any likely D white voters to pull back from dems or switch to trump on Election Day

The rest of us have to stay strong + not let anything divide us , grow our numbers even if the party puts its focus elsewhere

JustAnotherGen

(33,785 posts)
15. Thank you
Mon Jun 17, 2019, 10:07 AM
Jun 2019

I probably missed it as and I tend to fly by DU now that its primary season. Was seriously brutal here in 2008 and 2016.

Glad it was posted in General Discussion.

And yes - those numbers are scary.

lunasun

(21,646 posts)
18. No mine was just a posted reply with a link and the numbers .Thank you for making it an OP @du
Mon Jun 17, 2019, 10:22 AM
Jun 2019

White people majority do want trump according to many valid polls

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
24. Insulting sophistry. Any white person who believes he
Mon Jun 17, 2019, 11:41 AM
Jun 2019

wants Trump because he's white, but of course doesn't really, is a walking oxymoron. And no amount of agreement among blacks inclined to it will change that.

DonCoquixote

(13,728 posts)
25. sophistry
Mon Jun 17, 2019, 11:56 AM
Jun 2019

Look, 100 percent of all white people (whatever that definition is) may not want trump, but for some reason a lot of whote people do, and they are also the people who love racial slurs, or believe that browns and backs present a threat to them. No akount of "nt all white people" sophistry is changing that.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
29. I accidentally posted from the "latest threads" forum
Mon Jun 17, 2019, 12:15 PM
Jun 2019

not noticing the OP was from this one. I like to leave people in special subforums alone to indulge whatever they're there for that doesn't belong in GD.

JustAnotherGen

(33,785 posts)
33. Why wouldn't it belong in GD?
Tue Jun 18, 2019, 05:53 AM
Jun 2019

The author is speaking to the General Election.

GD Primaries maybe? However, I'm sure the responses would be much like this one - dismissive.

We've heard since 2016 it was financial insecurity. I watched The Deciders last night.

It was ignorance then, and it will be ignorance next year.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
35. I know some of the people who once made this DU's
Tue Jun 18, 2019, 06:12 AM
Jun 2019

most reliably thoughtful and insightful forum are still here. But it is a great shame that others are no longer. I know I'm hardly the only one who often visited to learn what was being said here, and they are missed. Hopefully they'll someday rejoin those still here, at least those who can.

And now I'm out. Carry on.

Kind of Blue

(8,709 posts)
36. Wow, Hortensis, your ability to obfuscate and deflect
Tue Jun 18, 2019, 04:14 PM
Jun 2019

is obvious with this series of trollish behavior in this OP. You think it's we "blacks inclined" to agree with the OP though there are plenty of white posters in agreement replying in this thread and in recs. You really should be more careful where you post and continue to learn but not engage when you're just on a level of denial that's not conducive to your sensitivity and surely lacking in preparation when it comes to this matter.

It's good to know when you're licked. Carry on.

brer cat

(26,477 posts)
26. "It's the racism stupid."
Mon Jun 17, 2019, 11:59 AM
Jun 2019

Feathers got ruffled, but it needs to be said and you did it quite well, JAG.

JustAnotherGen

(33,785 posts)
34. Thank you
Tue Jun 18, 2019, 05:55 AM
Jun 2019

In 15 years the Dominant Culture will not be kind in conversation or policy to the Trump Voter.

sheshe2

(88,096 posts)
31. Excellent Op.
Mon Jun 17, 2019, 01:49 PM
Jun 2019

Good to see you posting again, JAG.


We know - beyond a shadow of the doubt - that it was not economic anxiety.

It's the racism stupid. It was retaliation for Obama. They were 'left behind'. They were looked down upon. No one listened to them. Etc. etc.

Try being black or latin x or Asian, or a woman, or gay or on and on and on - then cry me a fucking river.

Retaliation is coming.


+1000

JI7

(90,844 posts)
40. THIS is why we have Trump. THIS Is the biggest problem in this country and why it's hard to get
Wed Jun 19, 2019, 05:21 AM
Jun 2019

common sense legislation passed which would improve basic things like education and health care. and dealing with gun control.

it's all rooted in racism and white people not wanting those "blacks and mexicans" to get free stuff and their wanting guns to defend themselves against the blacks/browns.

but we will continue to talk about economic anxiety and other bs.

even with polls showing democrats with large leads. the scumbag still gets over 40 percent of votes in the country and almost all of them are ....................................

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