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irisblue

(34,405 posts)
Tue Sep 22, 2020, 07:58 AM Sep 2020

Second white woman academic passing for AA

https://www.blackenterprise.com/white-professor-resigns-from-university-of-wisconsin-madison-after-lying-about-being-black/

snip-"In an essay published on Medium.com entitled, “A First Step,” CV Vitolo-Haddad confessed to pretending to be Black and/or Latinx and announced her resignation using the pen name See Vee Vitolo-Haddad. According to reports, she is actually Italian."


snip-"“I know it will take a long time to remedy this damage. I don’t know how to begin repairing things yet, but I want to recognize the hurt. I am taking some time to reflect so I can offer a real apology. I know it will take time for many of you to be willing to redress this.”

snip-"Vitolo-Haddad wrote a follow-up titled “A Second Step” to try to take more responsibility and to apologize for her reaction to other people’s reactions:"


In this article & there is more at source...


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From CV Vitolo-Haddad

Source-https://medium.com/@cvvitolo/a-first-step-da38275071e1


snip-"In an essay published on Medium.com entitled, “A First Step,” CV Vitolo-Haddad confessed to pretending to be Black and/or Latinx and announced her resignation using the pen name See Vee Vitolo-Haddad. According to reports, she is actually Italian. "


more at that source


And she has posted

"A Second Step"

https://medium.com/@cvvitolo/a-second-step-9fe0c6511ff3


snip-"EDIT 9/11: My parents have conflicting stories. This is all very overwhelming, to find so much out like this on the heels of an anonymous article questioning the very foundations of my life. I have no idea what to believe and the public nature of this has left me scrambling and confused. I am deeply sorry for how this is playing out. I have no idea what to believe anymore, but I am dedicated to figuring out the truth for myself and those around me.
What I know is that I am Southern Italian/Sicilian. In trying to make sense of my experiences with race, I grossly misstepped. I went along with however people saw me. I over-identified with unreliable and unproven family history and latched onto anything I remembered growing up. All of those actions were deeply misguided and have caused an incredible amount of hurt for the Madison community, those I organize with, and everyone who has been exposed to this public reckoning. It was my choice and error to identify any differently."


snip-"Second, I want to apologize for my reaction to the article. Instead of listening to friends tell me they felt hurt and betrayed, I kept trying to explain myself and why it had happened. I am incredibly sorry for that. I should have given an unconditional apology from the start."


more at that article


I am honestly not understanding these behaviors.
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brush

(58,015 posts)
1. What the hell is going on? Is it about standing out more and thus more opportunity...
Tue Sep 22, 2020, 08:07 AM
Sep 2020

because of visibility—"differentness"—in the job pool, conversely sort of why a few black people go republican?

What is the incentive here?

2naSalit

(93,332 posts)
2. It's the only thing I can think of...
Tue Sep 22, 2020, 08:14 AM
Sep 2020

These are the people who think that minorities get all the perks that they are somehow entitled to, like all the policies that ensure equality... or supposed to ensure equality.

So they fake it and adopt a personna, once they see that this belief only gets them so far they decide they want to bail on that idea and go with the ethnicity that will favor them.

American exceptionalism.

brush

(58,015 posts)
4. It's weird, I know that. Remember the phrase, "once you go black, you never go back"?
Tue Sep 22, 2020, 08:26 AM
Sep 2020

Ironically I think she'll find she can't go back even if she wants to because of her new found notoriety—this will be all over google searches/cyber space for forever.

qwlauren35

(6,279 posts)
13. Yes. That's what I think
Tue Sep 22, 2020, 08:15 PM
Sep 2020

I think these women looked at Affirmative Action and wanted a "piece of the pie" as "double minorities", thinking that it would open doors and get them jobs that they wanted to narrow the competition for.

MaryMagdaline

(7,918 posts)
6. It's "look at me" behavior
Tue Sep 22, 2020, 08:38 AM
Sep 2020

Their own stories weren’t very interesting and they had no souls, so they stole the souls of others.
I’m sure there are deep psychological reasons for all of this, the same with embezzlement and other types of theft, but I give it the same moral weight. These are scammers and cheats.

brush

(58,015 posts)
7. You're right. That's what it comes down to...scammers and cheats.
Tue Sep 22, 2020, 08:43 AM
Sep 2020

Not just faking an identity, stealing one.

irisblue

(34,405 posts)
8. Their careers are over, I'm not understanding this behavior
Tue Sep 22, 2020, 08:46 AM
Sep 2020

Being a dumbass in HS, maybe yes, but in college and grad school and publishing research, under a tainted name, no, I cannot get it

lunasun

(21,646 posts)
10. Instead of listening to friends tell me they felt hurt and betrayed, I kept trying to explain
Tue Sep 22, 2020, 09:01 AM
Sep 2020

“Instead of listening to friends tell me they felt hurt and betrayed, I kept trying to explain myself and why it had happened.”
Another gaslighting grifter imo

From link
The TAA Executive Board and Racial Justice Committee of UW-Madison issued this statement:

“We condemn CV Vitolo-Haddad’s appropriation of Black and Brown identities in no uncertain terms. They have resigned as co-president, and we have removed their access to our website, social media, and all other internal accounts. We cannot speak for CV, but we as TAA leaders are profoundly sorry for the harm they have caused members of the Madison community by
1) claiming Black and Brown identities,
2) using those identities to silence and alienate activists in organizing spaces, and
3) manipulating and gaslighting Black and Brown community members who tried holding them accountable.”

CaptYossarian

(6,448 posts)
12. There are quite a few examples of changing one's identity (other than just a name) in
Tue Sep 22, 2020, 10:55 AM
Sep 2020

past media. Movies like Gentlemen's Agreement and a (s)light comedy, Soul Man--along with Watermelon Man (an unintentional change from a white bigot to a Black man) come to mind. There's also the book "Black Like Me".

Most of these examples are older and mostly fictional, so reactions weren't as severe as now.

This also changes Chris Rock's riff about how he's rich and famous, yet none of his white audience members would ever change places with him.

The times--they are a-changin'. Just not the way Bob Dylan intended.

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