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The Oregon Standoff and the Cowboy LawyersThe cowboy legal scholars are about as competent as legal theorists as most law professors would be as cowboys.
Read more at http://indiancountrytodaymedianetwork.com/2016/02/02/oregon-shootout-and-cowboy-lawyers
safeinOhio
(34,126 posts)on a loop hole.
Ford_Prefect
(8,203 posts)Big hat no cattle is a very apt description of most of them. They want a pretend cowboy life that never happened. Its the one they see in advertising and old TV shows where a "man" was defined by how fast and often he used his weapon to settle a score. Where patience, thought and information are trumped every time by attitude, anger and adrenaline. They imagine they would be the guys in the white hats bringing "Christian Justice" in this movie world, but in truth they are the lynch mob: driven by fear and greed, manipulated by the "big interests" they claim to abhor.
They are in a hurry to undo all they claim is wrong as long as it means they wind up with the land, the water, the trees, and what's under the land, with no "rules" or inconveniently placed Native Americans to interfere with their presumptive "god given" dominion. These are exactly the conditions that lead to the creation of the Malheur National Wildlife Refuge.
newfie11
(8,159 posts)And the ranchers I know are disgusted with these idiots.
Whose taking care of their ranches back home????
Ford_Prefect
(8,203 posts)Most of those guys are NOT ranchers in any sense. Ammon owns a diesel equipment service company, Ryan Bundy runs a building contracting firm. Finicum's "spread was run by his wife and foster kids. Many of the rest aren't even from ranch country. Most are wannabe gun totin' hombres and according to reports several are known criminals. Imagine the western redneck version of fraternity brother style hangers on and you have 1/2 of them.
OldRedneck
(1,397 posts)Remember how, during the standoff at the Clive Bundy ranch, the terrorists claimed Bundy was defending "ancestral lands" that his family had owned since the 1800's -- or some such bullshit as that?
Turns out that a sharp-eyed journalist at a local newspaper took the simple step of checking the county property records.
Clark County property records show Cliven Bundys parents moved from Bundyville, Arizona and bought the 160 acre ranch in 1948 from Raoul and Ruth Leavitt.
Water rights were transferred too, but only to the ranch, not the federally managed land surrounding it. Court records show Bundy family cattle didnt start grazing on that land until 1954.
Read more at http://wonkette.com/547315/hero-ranchers-family-has-been-on-nevada-land-since-forever-or-at-least-1948#xQ11x3uiPbpXGbfH.99