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mopinko

(71,869 posts)
Fri Jun 26, 2020, 05:00 PM Jun 2020

i have received the most extraordinary gift.

Last edited Fri Jun 26, 2020, 08:19 PM - Edit history (1)

so, i have this little urban farm. it sits in the north east corner of chicago. it is 5 pieces of property, all a city lot and a half.
i am close to loyola university, and the guy that runs their sustainable ag program there has entrusted me w a bit of history that i am just sure i am not worthy of.

he was given some 20 year old seeds of the original american tobacco. he got a flat of plants, and gave 3 to me.
they came to him through a man named john svenson, a man who deserves a nobel prize for his contributions to botany and to agriculture. he is one of the founders of the seed savers, and these seeds were part of his gift of his personal seed vault to them.

most of my main lot, which has no buildings on it, is full sun, but tobacco is an understory plant. (the other 4 have buildings on them. rental housing is what pays the bills here.) so i had to make a special place for them. i had a little hoop house that i was planning to move this year, but i decided to leave it where it is, and plant beans and squashes up the frame, plus some trellis, to shade the plants.
i will take some cuttings from my grape vines and plant them too for later years.
there is an the remains old mulberry next to it, cut down but not dead, that shades it from the late afternoon sun.

that i have been entrusted w this bit of history still boggles my mind a bit. but i have done everything i could to take care of them, and make the right place for them.
when they get a bit bigger is will post some pics.

i guess i am posting here to ask for some blessings for this. it has actually been a part of some neighborhood drama over people setting off explosions, and being assholes, and everyone going nuts.
it is peaceful now, and i think that old grudges have been buried.
but i dont think it would hurt to ask for good wishes of peace and tranquility, and good rains for the rest of the season.

can i get a culturally appropriate amen?

eta a link to my farm fb page, since it isnt in my sigline anymore-
http://facebook.com/moahsark

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i have received the most extraordinary gift. (Original Post) mopinko Jun 2020 OP
Sending Blessings from Oregon leftieNanner Jun 2020 #1
thank you. mopinko Jun 2020 #3
Oy-men!!! elleng Jun 2020 #2
Amen and Amen. Zoonart Jun 2020 #4
I've found that people with an interest in seeds, planting them and watching them grow abqtommy Jun 2020 #5
lol. no, just advise you to get out and get some sun. mopinko Jun 2020 #8
You got it- Best for the continuity.-n/t marked50 Jun 2020 #6
You've got mine, old buddy. blm Jun 2020 #7
well that counts double. mopinko Jun 2020 #9
Amen! brer cat Jun 2020 #10
me too. it's been soooooo dry. mopinko Jun 2020 #11
Sending good thoughts! But what about this? I heard a reason the colonists kept expanding Karadeniz Jun 2020 #12
hmmm. well mopinko Jun 2020 #13
two thoughts bubbazero Jun 2020 #14
i know of no such permit that i need to grow. mopinko Jun 2020 #15
Muchas bendiciones para ti.[Many blessings to you] RestoreAmerica2020 Jun 2020 #16
thanks much. mopinko Jun 2020 #17
De nada. Have a good night! RestoreAmerica2020 Jun 2020 #18

mopinko

(71,869 posts)
3. thank you.
Fri Jun 26, 2020, 05:07 PM
Jun 2020

it's been a crazy year, but this is year 8, and so much is coming together. it's really exciting. getting fruit on my fruit trees, and soil building projects getting to be just right.

so glad to live where i do, w things fairly under control.

abqtommy

(14,118 posts)
5. I've found that people with an interest in seeds, planting them and watching them grow
Fri Jun 26, 2020, 05:16 PM
Jun 2020

will not advise me to drink bleach so AMEN to you my friend!

mopinko

(71,869 posts)
8. lol. no, just advise you to get out and get some sun.
Fri Jun 26, 2020, 05:25 PM
Jun 2020

i sorta purposely dont wear a mask in my garden so people will keep their distance.
it used to be so quiet here during the day. but now. man.

mopinko

(71,869 posts)
9. well that counts double.
Fri Jun 26, 2020, 05:25 PM
Jun 2020

thanks of friend.
we have to meet in meatspace one day.
what a tale the long version of this story is.

mopinko

(71,869 posts)
11. me too. it's been soooooo dry.
Fri Jun 26, 2020, 06:06 PM
Jun 2020

and this spot, having been covered for the last 3 years, needed so much water just to get it ready.

raining today, tho, and got a bit yesterday. if it can just keep up till the beans, etc, can give them some shade, they will thrive, i think.
that stuff was sitting in pots for too long too, so it should all shoot up fast.

thx for the amen.

Karadeniz

(23,442 posts)
12. Sending good thoughts! But what about this? I heard a reason the colonists kept expanding
Fri Jun 26, 2020, 06:52 PM
Jun 2020

Their territory was because raising tobacco wrecked the soil. Also the need for new boundaries was why Washington became a surveyor. I don't want the tobacco to ruin your soil!❤

mopinko

(71,869 posts)
13. hmmm. well
Fri Jun 26, 2020, 07:04 PM
Jun 2020

i dont intend to expand, so i dont have to worry about that, tho....

i do need to look into the soils issue, tho. this spot is freshly built soil. 5 year ago it was a pile of huge logs. i do hugelkultur here.
so, there is very little in the way of sand/minerals.
i did give it a shot of a good fertilizer, and a combo mineral source.
and i always plant beans the first year i put a pile into production.

should be interesting.
also have 3 little paw paws to add to this little bit of understory.
never thought i would go out of my way to block out the sun.

bubbazero

(296 posts)
14. two thoughts
Fri Jun 26, 2020, 07:15 PM
Jun 2020

1. I wish you much success in your agricultural endeavors--"ag'r" myself...........2. Might want to check with extension service for permits and growing season length. Not much org 'American' Tobacco grown in upper Midwest. Hoop building might help. (Seriously, check for permits)

mopinko

(71,869 posts)
15. i know of no such permit that i need to grow.
Fri Jun 26, 2020, 07:20 PM
Jun 2020

to sell, i presume so. but to grow? aint nobody gonna know what that plant is unless i tell them, and i have grown other nicotiana family. night scented tobacco is one of my favorite flowers, and i grow it for the night pollinators. the perfume of it physically hits you in the face when you walk up to it.

my seedlings failed this year, so i was super happy to see these little tobacco plants.

the guy who gave them to me would know, and he didnt mention it. he is a prof of urban ag, so...

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