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BeyondGeography

(40,026 posts) Wed Jul 10, 2013, 02:02 PM Jul 2013

Depp Considers Buying Wounded Knee and Returning it to Indians

Buried in this Daily Mail feature on Johnny Depp is this tidbit that could pay big dividends to American Indians:

"Such is Depp’s commitment to the Native American cause, he is planning to spend millions of his own money to return land, Wounded Knee, in South Dakota, to their ownership.

The site, the scene of an 1890 massacre, is up for sale for $3.9 million. Local Native Americans say they cannot afford to buy it. Depp is outraged.

"It’s very sacred ground and many atrocities were committed against the Sioux there. And in the 1970s there was a stand-off between the Feds (Federal government) and the people who should own that land. This historical land is so important to the Sioux culture and all I want to do is buy it and give it back. Why doesn’t the government do that?"

Is he really prepared to pay for the land?

"I am doing my best to make that happen. It’s land they were pushed on to and then they were massacred there. It really saddens me."

http://indiancountrytodaymedianetwork.com/2013/07/10/depp-wants-buy-wounded-knee-and-return-it-indians-150359

Daily Mail feature is here:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/home/event/article-2356133/Johnny-Depp-life-Vanessa-Paradis--cheating-death-The-Lone-Ranger.html
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Depp Considers Buying Wounded Knee and Returning it to Indians (Original Post) BeyondGeography Jul 2013 OP
++ for Depp! n/m Hydra Jul 2013 #1
I love this. bunnies Jul 2013 #2
Good for Depp, this is awesome! nt. polly7 Jul 2013 #3
I sure hope so newfie11 Jul 2013 #4
Some do not want it back and some do. Will be messy no matter what. glinda Jul 2013 #5
I always liked that guy. nt awoke_in_2003 Jul 2013 #6
Depp is my hero hardcover Jul 2013 #7
I dusty trails Jul 2013 #8
My Kinda Guy BehindTheCurtain76 Jul 2013 #9
He left France when Hollande raised taxes.... MADem Jul 2013 #13
Hurray! Iliyah Jul 2013 #10
Well, he got some major shit for that Lone Ranger movie...that could be what is driving this.... MADem Jul 2013 #11
That's a perfect example of cynicism, but I admit that it crossed my mind as well. Towlie Jul 2013 #14
The article I posted was fairly restrained--I've seen others that were way meaner... nt MADem Jul 2013 #26
If he comes through, he's like theaocp Jul 2013 #12
I'd contribute if he needs help. Sad thing is the property was assessed at $140k, but the owners rwsanders Jul 2013 #15
I'm surprised that's all it's assessed at shawn703 Jul 2013 #20
We saw "The Lone Ranger" last night SleeplessinSoCal Jul 2013 #16
I want to see it for the locations alone BeyondGeography Jul 2013 #17
I love Canyon de Chelly! It really is a mystical place. knitter4democracy Jul 2013 #29
i had no desire to see it till i read your post frylock Jul 2013 #24
Our whole family loved it. MrSlayer Jul 2013 #27
Government Should Do It erpowers Jul 2013 #18
I wish he would allow people to help. I'd donate. Firebrand Gary Jul 2013 #19
Subject: President Obama: Save Wounded Knee frankie2012 Jul 2013 #21
Done...many thanks BeyondGeography Jul 2013 #22
Also done! And Tweeted! Glad to help! Rhiannon12866 Jul 2013 #25
much respect if that's the case frylock Jul 2013 #23
what is for him to consider sabbat hunter Jul 2013 #28
Johnny Depp OnionPatch Jul 2013 #30
Depp cntrygrl Jul 2013 #31

newfie11

(8,159 posts)
4. I sure hope so
Reply to BeyondGeography (Original post)
Wed Jul 10, 2013, 02:18 PM
Jul 2013

Been to the Cemetery and through the town many times.

The cemetery has a eerie feeling to it. It needs to belong to the Lakota People and Pine Ridge.

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MADem

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13. He left France when Hollande raised taxes....
Reply to BehindTheCurtain76 (Reply #9)
Wed Jul 10, 2013, 04:15 PM
Jul 2013
What? Hang on a minute; why did he leave France? He makes a sour noise, part grunt, part hurrumph. "Cos France wanted a piece of me. They wanted me to become a permanent resident. Permanent residency status – which changes everything. They just want," and he mimes peeling off notes in his palm. "Dough. Money."
http://www.guardian.co.uk/film/2011/nov/06/johnny-depp-interview-rum-diary
Not quite Gerard Depardieu, but not a socialist hero, either.

I think it is funny how, when people like a way that an actor or singer does their job, that they automatically make assumptions about how liberal or conservative they are.

The number of people who were infuriated when sassy Kelsey Grammar, with his clever Frasier quips, his long history on Cheers, was revealed to be a Republican, is a memory I'll not soon forget. "I always HATED him," people would say, when they did no such thing.

I don't give a shit how actors feel about stuff. They can raise money for candidates if they'd like, but I'm not going to them for political counsel.

Clint Eastwood didn't move Romney's numbers, except maybe down, did he?
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MADem

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11. Well, he got some major shit for that Lone Ranger movie...that could be what is driving this....
Reply to BeyondGeography (Original post)
Wed Jul 10, 2013, 04:07 PM
Jul 2013
http://www.salon.com/2013/07/03/johnny_depps_tonto_misstep_race_and_the_lone_ranger/


.......with today’s new release “The Lone Ranger,” he’s adding “American Indian” to the pile of personas he’s tried on — and scholars of American Indian history are not pleased.

Depp, who has claimed in the past to have Indian heritage (a claim that Indian Country Today, a media network for the American Indian community, has contested), is playing Tonto, one of the longest-running Indian characters in American media. It’s also an intensely problematic one. Depp, who was adopted into the Comanche Nation after signing on to “The Lone Ranger,” claims that his role is a “salute” to American Indians, and “Smoke Signals” director Chris Eyre, an American Indian, has said, “I completely respect Johnny Depp for making this movie happen and for him to try and rewrite Tonto for a new generation.” Some critics, including Salon’s Andrew O’Hehir, have found bright spots in the film even while acknowledging the problems inherent in its casting. Depp has screened the film for the Comanche nation — with many leaders of various tribes in attendance — and Disney donated proceeds from the Los Angeles premiere to the American Indian College Fund.

But for all the trappings of enlightened cooperation, the new Tonto may read as more of the same — and less a salute than an insult.
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rwsanders

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15. I'd contribute if he needs help. Sad thing is the property was assessed at $140k, but the owners
Reply to BeyondGeography (Original post)
Wed Jul 10, 2013, 04:27 PM
Jul 2013

are profiteering from the Sioux who want it back.

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shawn703

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20. I'm surprised that's all it's assessed at
Reply to rwsanders (Reply #15)
Wed Jul 10, 2013, 05:05 PM
Jul 2013

Considering the historical value of the land. I'm guessing though that whoever assessed it didn't consider that, only the values of similar plots of land in the vicinity.

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SleeplessinSoCal

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16. We saw "The Lone Ranger" last night
Reply to BeyondGeography (Original post)
Wed Jul 10, 2013, 04:29 PM
Jul 2013

I can see why it got blasted in the media. Way too close to the truth about how we "conquered" the west.

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BeyondGeography

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17. I want to see it for the locations alone
Reply to SleeplessinSoCal (Reply #16)
Wed Jul 10, 2013, 04:32 PM
Jul 2013

Spent a couple of days in Canyon de Chelly last week...otherworldy, really.

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MrSlayer

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27. Our whole family loved it.
Reply to SleeplessinSoCal (Reply #16)
Wed Jul 10, 2013, 07:43 PM
Jul 2013

Great movie. Action, comedy, good original story. I think the critics don't like it when the robber barons and the "white man" are called out.

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erpowers

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18. Government Should Do It
Reply to BeyondGeography (Original post)
Wed Jul 10, 2013, 04:33 PM
Jul 2013

I agree with Depp. The United States should buy the land a return the land to the Sioux.

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frankie2012

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21. Subject: President Obama: Save Wounded Knee
Reply to BeyondGeography (Original post)
Wed Jul 10, 2013, 06:19 PM
Jul 2013

Subject: President Obama: Save Wounded Knee
Hi,
The historic and sacred site of the 1890 Wounded Knee Massacre is about to be sold at auction to the highest bidder. It should be preserved as a National Monument, not sold for condos or private use. We have an obligation to preserve this for the historical record, our national conscience and for the First Nations people whose murdered ancestors call for us to sanctify this ground forever.

That's why I signed a petition to President Barack Obama, which says:

"The United States should buy the historically invaluable and sacred site of the 1890 Wounded Knee Massacre of the Lakota people and make it a National Monument. The owner is about to put it up for auction after May 1, and it will be sold to private party and lost to history if the federal government does not step in."

Will you sign this petition? Click here:

http://petitions.moveon.org/sign/president-obama-save-7?source=s.em.cp&r_by=7951698

Thanks!
http://petitions.moveon.org/thanks.html?petition_id=41031&test_group=share_chain&from_source=s.em.cp&id=-7951698-VWlVUO

Save Wounded Knee FACEBOOK PAGE
AS OF DECEMBER 29th, 2012 THE FAMILY OF JAMES A. CZYWCZYNSKI HAS AGREED TO SELL TWO 40 ACRE SITES, WOUNDED KNEE AND PORCUPINE BUTTE
https://www.facebook.com/SaveWoundedKnee?fref=ts

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cntrygrl

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31. Depp
Reply to BeyondGeography (Original post)
Sat Jul 20, 2013, 08:47 PM
Jul 2013

This is fantastic. I hope he will be able to do this but would it really be that easy? Would there be land taxes, insurance etc? If this sounds ignorant, please know that I honestly don't know what would be the legalities of such a deal.

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