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Number9Dream

(1,639 posts)
Thu Mar 31, 2016, 10:08 AM Mar 2016

Has anybody else read the "Dune" prequel trilogy by Brian Herbert & Kevin Anderson? (spoiler alert)

The prequel trilogy is comprised of "The Butlerian Jihad", "The Machine Crusade", and "The Battle of Corrin". I found the trilogy interesting enough to read something like 2,000 pages. No, they were not nearly as good as the original "Dune" novel, but I was okay the overall quality. For fans of the original Dune series, I would say to try "The Butlerian Jihad" just to see if you like it. If you've read Dune, the trilogy is interesting in that these books introduce ancient ancestors of the Atreides and Harkonnen bloodlines. We also discover the first Arrakis resident to ride a sandworm, how melange became the most precious substance, how humans learned to fold space, the origin of mentats, the origin of the Bene Gesserit, and other bits related to the original Dune. There is constant action, and the plot moves along quickly. On the negative side, for me personally, these books were much more dark than the original Dune, and more violent and gruesome. By the end of the war, billions of human beings have been killed, and it doesn't feel like victory. I don't know if I want to try any more Dune books by B. Herbert & K. Anderson for now. If anyone else here has read these, I'd enjoy reading your take on these, or any of the other "new" Dune books.

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Has anybody else read the "Dune" prequel trilogy by Brian Herbert & Kevin Anderson? (spoiler alert) (Original Post) Number9Dream Mar 2016 OP
I loved the original novel. Nitram Mar 2016 #1
Yes. Mixed feelings getting old in mke Apr 2016 #2
Thanks so much for your thoughts Number9Dream Apr 2016 #3
Yep. Dr. Strange Apr 2016 #4
I read the Sands of Dune recently and House Corrino some time ago Fumesucker Apr 2016 #5
i found the 6 of the prequels to be be good if not excellent. Tetrachloride Oct 2021 #6

getting old in mke

(813 posts)
2. Yes. Mixed feelings
Fri Apr 1, 2016, 10:47 AM
Apr 2016

Herbert's own sequels, especially the first two, Messiah and Children, really seem to form, for me, the full story with Dune as part of the Paul story. I don't think they can be separated in Herbert's philosophical wanderings: Dune was about the creation and taking of power riding on the back of a religious movement, whereas Dune Messiah and Children of Dune are about the consequences of doing so. In these three, the ideas are really the main character, the world building second, and the story and people third. That is not to say the people characters are badly done--they certainly aren't, they grow, they breathe--but in my mind, the ideas and philosophy wins.

The later Herbert sequels were really more of "What if?" story telling once the universe was there, although ideas still have a solid role.

The Dune 2.0 books are really a different class of book and writing entirely. They are pretty much pure story: more than fan-fic, less (much less) that the original six.

But they DO address questions that lots of us over the years might have had. The first ones to come out, the "House" trilogy give us the back story of Leto and Jessica, Baron Harkonnen, Rhombur, the development of Ix, the court of Shaddam and the Princess Irulan. And, gift of gifts, Gurney Halleck.

The next trilogy, that you've read goes way, way back to the why they don't trust machines. I, too, found much of it way more bloody than I liked. The pre-Dune interested me, the rest, meh.

(Although in counter balance to the billions dying there, if you think about the implications of Paul's jihad later, there may be a similar toll--just not front and center. And certainly not "art.&quot

I haven't read the "mid-prequel-trilogy" about the creation of the various important institutions--Bene Gesserit, etc. I did read "Paul of Dune", though, which filled in a time period in the first three of Frank Herbert's. It deals more explicitly with Paul's jihad. Overall, it was, well, ok, but not particularly memorable.

That may describe most of the BH & KA offerings: stories to fill in places our minds want to go, but clearly entertainment. Frank Herbert's volumes were about so much more. If you don't have Dune level expectations, they are an adequate visit with an old friend.

Number9Dream

(1,639 posts)
3. Thanks so much for your thoughts
Fri Apr 1, 2016, 02:52 PM
Apr 2016

Like you said, "If you don't have Dune level expectations..."

I'll probably give the others a try eventually.

Dr. Strange

(25,997 posts)
4. Yep.
Wed Apr 6, 2016, 11:59 AM
Apr 2016
If you don't have Dune level expectations, they are an adequate visit with an old friend.


That's the key--it's a fun read, as long as you're not expecting the same type of novel.

I found the the last books (Hunters of Dune and Sandworms of Dune) to be the best of the BH & KA bunch. But that's probably because they had Frank's notes to go off of. The return of Paul and Leto II was cool, but the ascendancy of Duncan Idaho was perhaps the most interesting aspect of the story (although it was predictable as hell in their writing). The utter reversal of the Frankenstein mythos was fascinating as hell.

It would have been interesting to see Frank tackle this without the prequels. I don't think Brian or Kevin were comfortable bringing Erasmus in without his backstory; hence the Butlerian Jihad prequels.

Fumesucker

(45,851 posts)
5. I read the Sands of Dune recently and House Corrino some time ago
Thu Apr 28, 2016, 05:53 PM
Apr 2016

House Corrino is almost worth it just to find out what happened to the Baron, he was once a vain magnificent physical specimen I'll say that much.

SoD wasn't bad and had some interesting twists and a couple of odd cultures, Paul's persuasiveness and physical presence are given some reasonably plausible background even beyond the Bene Gesserit training in kind of a fun little vignette that typically ends in a horror.

Neither of course really stands up to the the original but they were fun reads.

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