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laserhaas

(7,805 posts)
Mon Feb 2, 2015, 05:58 PM Feb 2015

Future postings for TRue Crime - on the Romney, Bain Capital and Goldman Sachs - SAGA's

This is a teaser of things to come.

Because there are so many crimes in our RICO case against Mitt Romney, the naysayer parties can easily deflect discussion. After all, if judges will allow Romney's gang to intentionally lie under oath - then lying under oath can't be a lie - RIGHT?

Wrong!

[center]Lying under oath - is Lying Under Oath[/center]

It is absolutely inane that one has to argue about the fact of "IF" lying under oath is actually lying under oath. Fortunately for me, there's an actual case (11th Cir) of Walker v Walden (U.S. Trustee versus a bankruptcy Trustee) - where a judge said THIS;
http://njlaw.rutgers.edu/collections/resource.org/fed_reporter/NEWcircs/cir11/200611743_cir11.html

Walden also asserts that because she was not required to submit a verified statement, that the fact that she lied in that statement should not be held against her.

The idea that false testimony when offered to the court voluntarily is immune to the consequences of lying under oath
[center] is absurd.[/center]

Lying under oath is lying under oath

. It does not matterif the false statementis voluntary.8

bold emphasis is mine

and the Circuit Court is correct - arguing if lying under oath is actually lying - IS A B S U R D

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[center][font size=6]Future Filings Will be Count by Count Format[/font][/center]

Multiple federal persons retired, do try to help this under-educated person, figure out a way to FORCE fed agents & judges - to do their job! It simply isn't easy, to take down big sleazies. So, here we have suggestion, per my secret friends and a link provide directly from the Department of Justice.

SAMPLE INDICTMENT - per the United States Attorney Manual ("USTM&quot

http://www.justice.gov/usao/eousa/foia_reading_room/usam/title9/41mcrm.htm#9-41.001



[font size=4]Item - 845

Sample Indictment—False Oath, 18 U.S.C. § 152(2)[/font]


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False Oath or Account—18 U.S.C. § 152(2)

Subsection 152(2), of Section 152 provides:

A person who...knowingly and fraudulently makes a false oath or account in or in relation to any case under title 11;...shall be fined..., imprisoned..., or both.
  1. The elements of a false oath violation have been defined as:
  2. the existence of a bankruptcy proceeding;
  3. a statement made under oath;
  4. the statement must be material;
  5. the statement must be false; and
  6. the statement was made knowingly and fraudulently.
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    Metheany v. United States, 390 F.2d 559, 561 (9th Cir.), cert. denied, 393 U.S. 824 (1968).

    The defendant "cannot escape a false oath charge by misleading the questioner with false testimony and then supply literally true answers to questions based on his false testimony." United States v. Robbins, 997 F.2d 390, 395 (8th Cir.), cert. denied, 114 S. Ct. 391 (1993); United States v. Schafrick, 871 F.2d 300 (2d Cir. 1989).

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On or about the April 2001 in the Bankruptcy Court District of Delaware
THE, defendant herein, knowingly and fraudulently made a false material statement under oath in relation to a case under Title 11, In re: eToys Case No. 01-706, - by falsely testifying under oath in a proceeding before the case that he had NO conflict of interest issues. Doing such offense, in an extensively heinous and egregious manner, after being forewarned by the federal Police (United States Trustee's office) - NOT to handpick parties that would create Conflicts of Interests.


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It would appear that my filings in the cases, are too complicated for federal agents, agencies and judges to understand.

So - we will keep it simple!
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Future postings for TRue Crime - on the Romney, Bain Capital and Goldman Sachs - SAGA's (Original Post) laserhaas Feb 2015 OP
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Awh man, another attempt to sting; was de-stunged. laserhaas Apr 2015 #2

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laserhaas

(7,805 posts)
2. Awh man, another attempt to sting; was de-stunged.
Sat Apr 18, 2015, 02:37 PM
Apr 2015

Thanks to the watchers.....for watching.

It's about to get real out here; with new Press Releases coming on items neat-O!


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