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oneshooter

(8,614 posts)
Mon Mar 11, 2013, 10:12 PM Mar 2013

Computer program for writers

I am attempting to write a book. I have just purchased a laptop which will be dedicated to this endeavor.
Are there any writers programs that will help me? I have never taken a course in writing and know I need help.

Any help available!

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Computer program for writers (Original Post) oneshooter Mar 2013 OP
Celtx is free. Bolo Boffin Mar 2013 #1
Microsoft Word or Open Office DavidDvorkin Mar 2013 #2
Just finished a novel... CherokeeDem Mar 2013 #3
Hey, great links. Thanks! nt valerief Mar 2013 #11
You're Welcome... CherokeeDem Mar 2013 #12
I think a lot will depend on how much formating, insertion of photos, etc., you need to do. Hoyt Mar 2013 #4
Fiction or non? eom littlemissmartypants Mar 2013 #5
Fiction/science fiction oneshooter Mar 2013 #8
Microsoft Word. Publishers are used to working with it. mainer Mar 2013 #6
Liquid Story binder... Agnosticsherbet Mar 2013 #7
I use Notepad. I'm wary of people who recommend more. Chan790 Mar 2013 #9
I wouldn't even have a clue how to access SheilaT Mar 2013 #14
I put my writing on notepad, and now can not find it! oneshooter Mar 2013 #16
Bingo. SheilaT Mar 2013 #17
That reduces the nightmare of formatting PATRICK Jun 2013 #21
yWriter is free. Scrivener is $40. Both are similar. valerief Mar 2013 #10
Check out tvtropes.org. It's a wealth of ideas. valerief Mar 2013 #13
I will try out all of the posters ideas. oneshooter Mar 2013 #15
Poor you! SheilaT Mar 2013 #18
Have you checked out Scrivener? backscatter712 May 2013 #19
+1 on the Scrivener recommendation Old Crow Sep 2014 #23
Welcome to DU cyberswede Sep 2014 #24
Why, thank you! Old Crow Sep 2014 #25
Sounds like the kind if books I like. cyberswede Sep 2014 #26
Open Office is as good as any...and it is free... Lefty Nast Jun 2013 #20
Yarny - it's free, web-based, super easy to use and saves everything to the cloud automatically eShirl Jul 2013 #22
This message was self-deleted by its author valerief Sep 2014 #27

Bolo Boffin

(23,872 posts)
1. Celtx is free.
Mon Mar 11, 2013, 10:16 PM
Mar 2013

You can purchase add-ons, but the main program is free. You can write everything from novels to TV scripts on it.

https://www.celtx.com/index.html

CherokeeDem

(3,718 posts)
3. Just finished a novel...
Mon Mar 11, 2013, 10:35 PM
Mar 2013

I used MS Word and WhiteSmoke as a grammar program. I assume there must be an advantage to a writing program, and I looked at few but was never convinced one would really help me.

Congratulations on deciding to write a book; it’s fun, frustrating, and rewarding all at the same time. I found the writing much easier than the editing, which is proving to be tedious and time consuming.

I use two writing blog sites a lot. One is the Bookshelf Muse; this blog has an Emotional Thesaurus, which is wonderful if you are writing fictional characters.

http://thebookshelfmuse.blogspot.com/

The other is Daily Writing Tips…I love this site. It’s a series of articles and has great information about the craft of writing on it, and includes fiction, non-fiction, journalism, and other writing forms. The site also offers a Daily Writing Tips sent via email.

http://www.dailywritingtips.com/

Good luck and enjoy the process.

 

Hoyt

(54,770 posts)
4. I think a lot will depend on how much formating, insertion of photos, etc., you need to do.
Mon Mar 11, 2013, 11:21 PM
Mar 2013

Also if you need grammar checking, etc.

In any event, good luck.

oneshooter

(8,614 posts)
8. Fiction/science fiction
Tue Mar 12, 2013, 09:44 PM
Mar 2013

It is the result of a number of dreams I have had in the last several years. They all tie together, I would, and still do, wake up and write notes. None of the notes are specific but all tie together.

mainer

(12,151 posts)
6. Microsoft Word. Publishers are used to working with it.
Tue Mar 12, 2013, 09:54 AM
Mar 2013

All word processing programs will work for you as a writer. But then when it comes time to submitting, editing, etc., you'll be working with publishers and Microsoft Word is one they like to work with.

Agnosticsherbet

(11,619 posts)
7. Liquid Story binder...
Tue Mar 12, 2013, 04:26 PM
Mar 2013

It facitilates any method of writing, and exports so that Microsoft Word (rightly or wrong the industry standard, you decide).

 

Chan790

(20,176 posts)
9. I use Notepad. I'm wary of people who recommend more.
Wed Mar 13, 2013, 04:20 PM
Mar 2013

Really. You don't need a fancy computer to write a book, the most popular novel of the last twenty years, Harry Potter and the Sorcerer's Stone, was written on a yellow steno-pad. On The Road by Jack Kerouac was written on a roll of toilet paper. Hemingway wrote on a typewriter. The majority of best selling novels through history were written on basic technology, the majority of those using pen and paper.

The best writing instructor I ever had made us do all of our composition in MS Notepad so that we couldn't worry about formatting, font, pagination, word-count or anything other than our writing. That's my recommendation. Write in Notepad. When you're finished composing, edit in a word-processing suite like Word. You'll write better for it. There's nothing there to distract. There's nothing there but your words. That's all you need and more than that is usually a detriment to the product. Publishers have people they pay a lot of money to make it look pretty; they're paying you to put words on the page.

When I teach writing courses for prose or poetry, I forbid my students the use of anything fancier than Notepad. Fancy writing software suites make bad writers and do nothing to improve the work-output of good ones.

Also, disconnect your internet and take the phone off the hook. Writing time is writing time and should be protected from intrusion. When the words stop coming or you start to make mistakes or feel compelled to go back and edit what you just wrote, hang it up for the day.

 

SheilaT

(23,156 posts)
14. I wouldn't even have a clue how to access
Wed Mar 13, 2013, 11:44 PM
Mar 2013

Notepad.

I use MS Word. Courier New, 12 pitch. I have noticed that novice writers want to use fancier fonts, and never believe me when I try to tell them that if they're ever going to submit anything it has to look as if it were typed.

 

SheilaT

(23,156 posts)
17. Bingo.
Fri Mar 15, 2013, 10:17 PM
Mar 2013

Many years ago, before the computers had windows, my husband would use Notepad for all sorts of stuff and encouraged me to use it. Seems as though as soon as you closed it, whatever had been written disappeared.

Word is perfectly fine. Just don't do any fancy formatting. There is an on-line site I submit to, and they want you to have saved your piece as a .txt, then copy and paste it into the form they use for you to submit. That gets rid of all the weird formatting. Maybe we could all write our stuff in a .txt document and that would be like notepad.

PATRICK

(12,239 posts)
21. That reduces the nightmare of formatting
Fri Jun 28, 2013, 05:38 AM
Jun 2013

Floating underneath Word and all the others is stuff that sometimes you never chose, never was conscious of. Then formatting warts like broken lines, missing rearranged texts, unfixable font differences appear long after you did something you can't remember.

All the book preparations pretty much make it advisable to write first with as little formatting as humanly possible and then you can adapt the same basic manuscript for all the media and do it yourself much easier- as in creating a Kindle e-book with MobiPocket.

However for the sake of my eyes some different view is necessary. Large bolder font and colored background that can be easily dumped. It is always good to hear your work. I guess some people can't hear the sometimes godawful disconnect between written and spoken language. It's often like Jekyll and Hyde.

valerief

(53,235 posts)
10. yWriter is free. Scrivener is $40. Both are similar.
Wed Mar 13, 2013, 07:09 PM
Mar 2013

They're what you use before you do the final formatting in a Word processor like MS Word.

They both break up chapters into scenes. yWriter has lots of fields and sections to capture data about the scene/book. Scrivener has some but allows you to create your own. Both are good.

For my first few novels, I was having trouble storing ideas or calendar dates or subplots I wanted to work in. These writing programs solve that problem. I wrote a couple books on yWriter and decided to give Scrivener a try, so I'm using that now.

Some writing programs do your plotting for you (as I understand it). That takes the fun out of writing a novel for me.

yWriter
http://spacejock.com/yWriter5.html

Scrivener
http://literatureandlatte.com/

Oh, yeah, and both are written by Brits, so the spelling isn't American.

But maybe this isn't what you want. Maybe you want something that will be more of a nanny program. Don't know what to suggest for that.

on edit
Write It Now looks pretty good.
http://www.amazon.com/WriteItNow-4/dp/B002PRIT0O/ref=sr_1_4?s=software&ie=UTF8&qid=1363220316&sr=1-4&keywords=novel+writing

oneshooter

(8,614 posts)
15. I will try out all of the posters ideas.
Fri Mar 15, 2013, 04:41 PM
Mar 2013

However right now I am trying to convert from XP to Windows 8. Lost as a goose and loosing feathers fast!

 

SheilaT

(23,156 posts)
18. Poor you!
Fri Mar 29, 2013, 02:24 PM
Mar 2013

Even the folks whose day job is selling computers aren't happy about Windows 8. I won't be replacing my laptop any time soon, not as long as Windows 8 is out there.

backscatter712

(26,355 posts)
19. Have you checked out Scrivener?
Tue May 21, 2013, 08:03 PM
May 2013

Scrivener's sort of a mutation on word-processing, designed for serious writing.

It has several different ways of organizing your draft and your notes - you've got a binder, you can display things in outline format, and it gives you a corkboard so you can do the corkboard and index-cards style writeups like many writers do. It's designed to help you through the writing process all the way to finishing your first draft, at which point you can convert it into a .doc or .docx suitable for editing with MS Word, or .odt for LibreOffice, or ebook formats like .epub so you can put the book on your Kindle or Nook.

It's available for Mac OS, Windows or Linux.

Check it out here: http://www.literatureandlatte.com/scrivener.php

Old Crow

(2,224 posts)
23. +1 on the Scrivener recommendation
Wed Sep 3, 2014, 04:26 AM
Sep 2014

I'm using it for a first novel and although there were a few days when I was scratching my head (there's a learning curve), I am so glad I've invested the time to learn how to use it.

It's a magnificent program that I'm convinced is helping me write a better book than I'd be writing otherwise.

Old Crow

(2,224 posts)
25. Why, thank you!
Wed Sep 3, 2014, 02:28 PM
Sep 2014

It's a story, loosely-based on personal experience, that involves a guy, a girl, a whole lotta obstacles, some danger, and some law enforcement types. That's all I'm sayin'. (I'm of the keep-it-a-secret-until-the-first-draft's-done school.)

Lefty Nast

(61 posts)
20. Open Office is as good as any...and it is free...
Mon Jun 17, 2013, 11:54 AM
Jun 2013

I've tried a few but I have found Open Office as good as any. Of course, I did have to buy Word because it makes it so much easier in working with publishers since that is what they use.

eShirl

(18,750 posts)
22. Yarny - it's free, web-based, super easy to use and saves everything to the cloud automatically
Tue Jul 23, 2013, 07:24 AM
Jul 2013

I just found out about it from the nanowrimo website; apparently it's been out for a couple years.

http://www.getyarny.com/

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