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RandySF

(70,614 posts)
Tue Jun 4, 2024, 02:18 PM Jun 2024

The ugly discourse surrounding Caitlin Clark

I learned how swiftly the “Clarkies” can turn an innocent observation into an offense, and how dicey it can be to cover Clark when she has a subpar game. After Clark’s much-hyped professional debut, I wrote that Connecticut Sun guard DiJonai Carrington, a Black woman, “stripped her clean at half court.” Yet a male reader corrected me in an email that no, no, Clark was instead “cross; checked [sic] by a so-called top defensive opponent like in the NHL.” Another reader accused me of being “racial” — which I assume is better than being “racist” — because I dared to note Carrington’s defense.

Carter’s flagrant foul, upgraded by the league the next day, only inflamed the hysteria from those either blinded by their affection for Clark, or too ignorant to understand how heated competition works.

Consider what that argument implies. That Clark has elevated the league so much that competitors, paid professionals, should send Clark thank-you notes before every tip-off, then spend the rest of the game ushering her to the paint for open layups. How many other athletes, in the history of mankind, have ever been criticized for competing too hard? And who on Earth would consider Barkley, who once told a female reporter, ‘I don’t hit women, but if I did, I would hit you,’ a thought leader on women? Or as he called WNBA players, “these girls.”

Others have uttered worse. Across social media, Carter has been called a “thug,” her appearance lampooned and her shoulder check viewed as not simply a flagrant foul committed on a basketball court in downtown Indianapolis, but an “assault” perpetrated on the southside of Chicago.
Clark’s fans are engaging in these bigoted narratives, but so are the alarmists who have nothing better to do than to ruin women’s basketball. It would be naive to think that Clark hasn’t noticed this messiness swirling on social media and in major news outlets. She’s a pro, she has agency.

And power. She is not a minor, but rather an adult woman. And if this narrative that pits her against her Black peers makes her uncomfortable, then she needs to speak up and say so. Same goes for the Fever organization — as soon as those in charge are done using their platform to complain that their golden ticket is getting bruised up.





https://www.washingtonpost.com/sports/2024/06/04/caitlin-clark-chennedy-carter/

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The ugly discourse surrounding Caitlin Clark (Original Post) RandySF Jun 2024 OP
Trash DURHAM D Jun 2024 #1
I'm sure Caitlyn has much more to worry about then jimfields33 Jun 2024 #11
OMG!!! elleng Jun 2024 #2
It's no joke. RandySF Jun 2024 #3
IMO, that 'hit' was completely uncalled for, and done intentionally FreeForm73 Jun 2024 #4
Carter deserved the flagrant call but RandySF Jun 2024 #7
Not by Clark questionseverything Jun 2024 #9
Maybe not, but didn't Clark call her a "bitch"? Dr. Strange Jun 2024 #12
A side story: elleng Jun 2024 #5
Oh claudette Jun 2024 #6
Because of the no calls in the nba it has become entertainment, like wrestling questionseverything Jun 2024 #8
The sports media world loves villains and heroes Raven123 Jun 2024 #10
Rotten Article ProfessorGAC Jun 2024 #13
Sounds similar to what Tamika Catchings had to say! Dr. Strange Jun 2024 #14
Then I'm In Good Company ProfessorGAC Jun 2024 #15

jimfields33

(18,837 posts)
11. I'm sure Caitlyn has much more to worry about then
Tue Jun 4, 2024, 03:50 PM
Jun 2024

Social media clowns. Her endorsement deals and her love of the game keeps her above the riff raft. She’s doing it all right. Good on her.

elleng

(136,043 posts)
2. OMG!!!
Tue Jun 4, 2024, 02:23 PM
Jun 2024

How many other athletes, in the history of mankind, have ever been criticized for competing too hard?

FreeForm73

(110 posts)
4. IMO, that 'hit' was completely uncalled for, and done intentionally
Tue Jun 4, 2024, 02:27 PM
Jun 2024

Since she entered the league, she has been treated like a scourge, not as someone who can help everyone!!
I don't understand the lack of logic here

RandySF

(70,614 posts)
7. Carter deserved the flagrant call but
Tue Jun 4, 2024, 02:34 PM
Jun 2024

Last edited Tue Jun 4, 2024, 06:40 PM - Edit history (1)

it reached the point of her being called the ‘n word’.

Dr. Strange

(26,000 posts)
12. Maybe not, but didn't Clark call her a "bitch"?
Tue Jun 4, 2024, 04:52 PM
Jun 2024

Oh no, wait, that was Carter.

Funny thing is, Pat McAfee just apologized for calling Clark a "white bitch". He didn't even give her a cheap shot while her back was turned, and he's shown more remorse than Chennedy Carter.

questionseverything

(10,138 posts)
8. Because of the no calls in the nba it has become entertainment, like wrestling
Tue Jun 4, 2024, 02:34 PM
Jun 2024

If the women’s league becomes the same it ruins the game

She should just join the 3 on 3 league and let women’s bb go back to being invisible

Raven123

(6,037 posts)
10. The sports media world loves villains and heroes
Tue Jun 4, 2024, 03:28 PM
Jun 2024

I admit I like Clark for what I have seen in her public statements, maturity and professionalism. Honestly, I don’t get all the hype about her either. Seemed like outsized publicity , but she did set an NCAA record, so maybe that’s it. Or maybe it’s because Iowa got to the finals for 2 consecutive years and fans got to see her play a lot. Whatever it is, nothing excuses Carter.

Hard fouls, some of which are flagrant intentionally and accidentally are a part of the game. Shoving a player in the back when you are not in a crowd trying to to get a tip or a rebound is dirty and could be dangerous as the fouled player is not prepared for that kind of contact. I don’t know what Carter was thinking, but it doesn’t belong in competitive sports.

I hope the WNBA takes a hard line on this behavior. Frankly. I don’t watch certain NBA teams because they have players who repeatedly exhibit unsportsmanlike behavior. Wouldn’t want the WNBA to let this nonsense continue

ProfessorGAC

(69,854 posts)
13. Rotten Article
Tue Jun 4, 2024, 05:29 PM
Jun 2024

It's as if the writer hasn't watched the games.
It's nor just the fouls. It's the needless glee in making her early career miserable with rough stuff.
Clark is a tough bird, and she'll suck it up, but if fans see 80s Pistons or 90s Knicks rought stuff, the new attraction to the WNBA may be short lived because it looks like personal vendettas are the priority.
It's a bad look, & the league office must get a handle on it.

Dr. Strange

(26,000 posts)
14. Sounds similar to what Tamika Catchings had to say!
Tue Jun 4, 2024, 05:34 PM
Jun 2024
...
Catchings, who spent 15 years with the Fever, talked about the foul on Clark during an interview with USA Today.

"The cheap shot, I don’t agree with that, I don’t agree with that, especially that’s where injuries happen,” Catchings said. “The play itself was wrong. As a whole, we all have a responsibility to make sure that things like that don’t happen, for anybody to get hit like that.

"From the league standpoint, you have to protect your players. The fact that the referees didn’t take the time within the game to go and look at it, I was really surprised. I was at the game. I was really surprised that they didn’t look at it and that they just kept it moving. That’s not a basketball play."
...

https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/other/indiana-fever-legend-tamika-catchings-not-happy-with-treatment-of-caitlin-clark/ar-BB1nBNOM

ProfessorGAC

(69,854 posts)
15. Then I'm In Good Company
Tue Jun 4, 2024, 06:06 PM
Jun 2024

And, I know it's gone too far when the Sky coach said that was not something the team approves of and won't be tolerated, the 20 minutes later the offending player said she'd do it again & had no remorse.
It's personal & ugly & unacceptable, plus business stupid.

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