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Related: About this forumShould Barry Bonds be inducted into the Major League Baseball Hall of Fame?
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Barry Bonds deserves to be inducted into the Baseball Hall of Fame | |
7 (29%) |
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Barry Bonds doesn't deserve to be inducted into the Baseball Hall of Fame | |
16 (67%) |
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I don't care if he's inducted or not | |
1 (4%) |
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sdfernando
(5,379 posts)"Who is Barry Bonds??"
oswaldactedalone
(3,557 posts)who, when he came up to the majors was a skinny pencil neck and after years of steroid abuse had a head so big, they couldnt find ballcaps big enough to fit him. He went from looking like the Scarecrow to the Michelin Man. He broke Hank Aarons all-time home run record but broke major league rules to do it, so NO hall of fame for Bonds.
red dog 1
(29,287 posts)Bleacher Creature
(11,434 posts)At what point do you draw the line? For example, what if you have a shoo-in who was clean for 19 years and started using steroids to try and get through year 20? Is that an automatic disqualifier?
303squadron
(675 posts)Here's my other argument: Take a guy who is a "star" player....a positive force for winning for his team, yet is not a HOF caliber player. My example is Roger Maris, who, at 38 WAR was a heck of a player but not Hall material. Feed him steriods! How many more home runs would be have jacked out of the park? Maybe enough to put his WAR within the Hall's reach. Or, how many more dingers would injury prone Mantle have hit with the extra help? Or Aaron?
The Hall assumes some sort of even playing field. Absent that the standards would be a joke. And no, don't tell me about the guys who are in who don't deserve to be there. The veterans committee let that happen in the 50's - that's a whole different argument!
ms liberty
(9,825 posts)JT45242
(2,886 posts)The hypocrisy of baseball and especially the Mitchell report on steroid use where Mitchell hid the use of red Sox like Manny, Big Papi, Garciapara etc. or Brewers since the commissioner had ties to the Brewers.
Then they leaked only some names from the anonymous testing years, targeting folks the media or sources wanted to make look bad.
While others like Piazza, Biggio, Pudge Rodriguez etc who were well liked get a pass. If you let some in, let them all in.
Just acknowledge the steroid era like the greenie era of the 1970s.
And before the roids, bonds already had HOF worthy career.
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red dog 1
(29,287 posts)Bristlecone
(10,486 posts)tirebiter
(2,587 posts)He underwent tests a number of times but never came up positive.
red dog 1
(29,287 posts)I think the Giants should rehire Barry Bonds as the batting coach.
Angleae
(4,640 posts)Auggie
(31,798 posts)baseball folks whose opinions I respect. So I vote yes. Add any kind of qualifier or asterisk you want.
True Dough
(20,243 posts)Any known cheats should be identified as such in Cooperstown. There should also be a related exhibit explaining the ways that players artificially enhanced themselves and how that aided their stats and a mention that many other players could have used a variety of PEDS and didn't get caught despite a testing system.
Let's put it all out there.
elias7
(4,187 posts)I think the effect on androgens conferred by going through male puberty is far greater proportionately to the advantage Bonds, Sosa, McGuire, etc. had vs their contemporaries.