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Related: About this forumRural Americans are importing tiny Japanese pickup trucks
https://www.economist.com/united-states/2023/04/20/rural-americans-are-importing-tiny-japanese-pickup-trucksBigger isnt always better
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Apr 20th 2023 | CHICAGO
A couple of years ago Jake Morgan, a farmer who lives just outside Raleigh, in North Carolina, realised he needed a new vehicle to get around his property. At first he was looking at side-by-sidesa sort of off-road utility vehicle. But watching a review on YouTube of one that costs around $30,000 made by John Deere, he saw a comment that said something like Why dont you just get a minitruck instead? That is, a tiny four-wheel drive pickup truck, sometimes known as a Kei truck, mostly made in Japan to take advantage of laws there which tax smaller vehicles less.
Intrigued, Mr Morgan started researching. Within a few months, he drove to Newport, Virginia to pick up a 1997 Honda Acty, having spent a total of just $2,000 on importing it. He was delighted. Not only was it dirt cheap, but the Acty is less than five feet wide, and so can get into tight spaces a normal pickup cannot, like Mr Morgans barn. And unlike a side-by-side, it can also be driven legally on local roads. Theyre amazingly useful, he says. Not long after importing his first, he sold it and bought another. The new one is even betterit has air-conditioning and a button which activates a dumper.
Kei trucks were never intended for sale in America. Most are right-hand drive, and they do not always have airbags or other safety features required in new cars. The bulk are imported under a rule that allows non-compliant vehicles that are older than 25 years to be brought into America, a carve-out intended originally for collectible vintage cars, although a few specialist dealers import newer ones too, for sale as off-road vehicles. They fill a niche American manufacturers are failing to.
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Unlike new vehicles with onboard computers and complicated proprietary parts, Kei trucks are easy to modify and repair. In northern Wisconsin and Minnesota, people fit them out with tracks to drive on ice in winter. Some owners are almost cultish. MotoCheez, a mechanic from Connecticut, says his YouTube channels popularity soared after he started featuring his Kei truck.
This article appeared in the United States section of the print edition under the headline "What a Kei-motion"
Lovie777
(14,996 posts)FSogol
(46,510 posts)gab13by13
(25,224 posts)I buy Subarus made in Indiana, not Japan. I buy washers and driers made in Wisconsin, not Mexico.
Sure there are parts made in other countries in my items but they are assembled in America.
paleotn
(19,178 posts)Most of the parts in your Indiana built Subaru are made not only in Japan, but all over the world. Same for GM and Ford.
kacekwl
(7,504 posts)sold here want big and bigger so they can carry that 2 by 4 they buy once a year. I had a 97 Ford Ranger for years. Best truck ever, carried most anything I needed. Good 4cyl mileage fit in the garage and my wife (and me) could get in and out easily. This size truck is no longer made by any manufacturer. People who actually use a truck for work like the farmer buy vehicles that work not to roll coal or any such nonsense.
oldsoftie
(13,538 posts)Probably not much; which is why they're not made here.
Alexander Of Assyria
(7,839 posts)Rolling coal baby! Not to worry fossil fuel company shareholders, the profits are safe!
oldsoftie
(13,538 posts)2naSalit
(92,665 posts)They are all over the place out here in rural Montana. I see more of them every year.
mitch96
(14,651 posts)I see two local bicycle shops have them. Then again my town has a bunch of street legal electric golf carts people run around in. The ordinance is that the little pickups and van cant go in major highways... No big deal. They are only 660 cc anyway...
Hummm i wonder if you could electrify them? Now that would be neat...
A REAL Tampa Bay Lightning, eh?
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paleotn
(19,178 posts)niyad
(119,888 posts)want to pay decent salaries or actually observe various rules and regulations, or, in some cases, deal with unions?
Scrivener7
(52,729 posts)with full video systems that promise you will rescue people in the frozen tundra, prove your manhood and conquer the great outdoors as you drive to the grocery store. That cost the average annual salary of an average American worker.
YorkRd
(351 posts)The Ford Maverick compact pickup sells new for prices ranging from $24,190 to $35,165 before options, but used examples have an average $36,777, which is 12.3% higher than their list price average.
https://www.foxnews.com/auto/used-ford-maverick-pickups-cost-more-new
Scrivener7
(52,729 posts)I am acquainted with a local landscaper. When he went to buy a working truck, he ended up getting a very old used one because the new ones were just not built to do work.
mitch96
(14,651 posts)Alexander Of Assyria
(7,839 posts)A truck costing at least 50k is a necessity.
mahatmakanejeeves
(60,922 posts)Depends. Not always.
sl8
(16,245 posts)Apparently North Carolina passed legislation in 2019 specifically for this type of truck:
https://mayberryminitrucks.com/nc-titling
Other states:
(I'd take this with a grain of salt)
https://motorandwheels.com/mini-trucks-rules-per-state/
paleotn
(19,178 posts)harumph
(2,316 posts)If I were able to fine one in great condition. Problem is, the prices have skyrocketed in recent
years and they are now quite collectable. For a while in college, I worked part time as a medical
specimen courier for a local reference lab. They had a fleet of these 1986ish trucks. We drove
the hell out of them. One of them had 386K and was still going strong. Overpowered, small and easy to
park and could still tow anything I could want.
NJCher
(37,864 posts)I know some rurals who would probably have a couple of them. Some of these people have huge properties and would find them useful and economical to get around.
As far as Detroit goes, theyre known for huge lapses in marketing judgment. How many times has Japan eaten their lunch?
They are replacing the open quads that were all the rage for a couple decades out here. Getting caught out in the open in the hot sun, a squall or worse and being a couple miles from shelter sucks. Something small with a cab is the preferred transport around the ranch these days. I see them all the time out here. They hit the scene back in '14 in this area.
Red Mountain
(1,880 posts)north of Durham, NC.
I'm intrigued.
There's a dealer importing them not too far away.....looks like they run about 4 or 5k cheaper than a new side by side.
A side by side is enormously useful to anybody raising livestock.
Roy Rolling
(7,171 posts)Scrivener7
(52,729 posts)YorkRd
(351 posts)Manufacturers have struggled to sell new basic trucks for decades. The market has spoken. Used small trucks have always been popular but the new market for them is too small to be profitable. What the market will buy is a small suv with a small pickup bed like the wildly popular Ford Maverick.
It would be great comedy to crash test one of these kei trucks. I bet the result would just be a pile of parts.
The Jungle 1
(4,552 posts)It was not 30 grand. MSRP 9,999. If the mini costs 2000 to import plus the purchase price and it is 26 years old??? My machine has two year warranty and is brand new. Well not anymore.
The 520 is built like a tractor, very solid. I am retired and I use this machine a lot, in fact every day. It has four wheel drive and I can lock the rear. I need that on my property. If you put it in low it crawls like a tank. The machine also has a dump bed and I can tow a trailer if I need more load capacity. I can plow snow with it. It is also a mobile work bench.
Those mini trucks look like they would work good on large flat fields. It is to long for my woods. My 520 is only 105 inches long and 54" wide.
Why import something that is 26 years old?
son and I were JUST talking about these and what a rip off the side by sides and other utility vehicles have become! WANT!!!
Mopar151
(10,177 posts)Apparently Cushman imported some Dihatsu mini's as "off highway vehicles".