but he is still MVP.

Personally I would make him a relief pitcher or closer next year. He would likely be the best at that as well, could probably pitch two innings every few days, close as needed, and still hit 40 - 50 home runs a year for the next decade.

BOSSHOG

(39,836 posts)

2. And he doesn't look like a republican

Reply to kairos12 (Original post)

Sat Sep 21, 2024, 07:59 AM

Sep 21

And anyone with legs that long should have stolen five times as many bases as he did. And he plays for the Damn Dodgers.

kairos12

(13,247 posts)

3. Also forgot the Dodgers angle

Reply to BOSSHOG (Reply #2)

Sat Sep 21, 2024, 08:02 AM

Sep 21

Right on!!

Magoo48

(5,341 posts)

11. Excuse me? Damn Dodgers?

Reply to BOSSHOG (Reply #2)

Mon Sep 23, 2024, 07:10 AM

Sep 23

We refer to the them as Dem’ Bums. With great love and affection.

BOSSHOG

(39,836 posts)

12. I stand corrected

Reply to Magoo48 (Reply #11)

Mon Sep 23, 2024, 07:12 AM

Sep 23

Dem Bums it is?

JT45242

(2,886 posts)

4. Can you imagine Ricky Henderson, Lou Brock etc with a pitch click and limited pick off throws

Reply to kairos12 (Original post)

Sat Sep 21, 2024, 08:05 AM

Sep 21

The best two players I ever saw in person at hitting homers and stealing bases were Barry Bonds and Eric Davis. (Too young for Mays)

I can't even imagine what the two of them would do in these hitters parks with a pitch click and limited pick off attempts.

As for stolen bases ...you might just go ahead and Ricky Henderson, Lou Brock, and a few others on third every time they got on base, if they played with these rules.

kairos12

(13,247 posts)

5. Their records would approach the unreachable equivalent of Cy Young's win totals.

Reply to JT45242 (Reply #4)

Sat Sep 21, 2024, 08:25 AM

Sep 21

SCantiGOP

(14,238 posts)

6. There's never been an MVP designated hitter

Reply to kairos12 (Original post)

Sat Sep 21, 2024, 10:21 AM

Sep 21

There was never a black MVP before 1949.
Things change. There is not any possible discussion that he is not the most valuable player in all of baseball.

kairos12

(13,247 posts)

8. I'm not even a Yankee fan

Reply to SCantiGOP (Reply #6)

Sat Sep 21, 2024, 02:00 PM

Sep 21

Judge more or equal HRS, more RBIS, way higher batting avg.

Plays a premium defensive position.

IMO-Judge by a mile.

SCantiGOP

(14,238 posts)

9. Agree, but

Reply to kairos12 (Reply #8)

Sat Sep 21, 2024, 05:11 PM

Sep 21

The MVP award is for one from each league.
The closest to an overall MVP is the guy who wins it for the World Series.

Auggie

(31,798 posts)

7. Yeah, but he's going to be MVP anyway

Reply to kairos12 (Original post)

Sat Sep 21, 2024, 10:30 AM

Sep 21

Can't win the argument here.

BTW, Marlins strategy on Thursday was to pitch regular to Ohtani, not pitch around him, and that resulted in the 6 hits, 3 HRs and 10 RBIs. How noble. How stupid. The guy is on a tear, your pitching stinks, and Marlins' manager Schumaker's response to walking Ohtani is "Fuck that?"

https://sports.yahoo.com/marlins-manager-skip-schumaker-on-possibly-walking-dodgers-shohei-ohtani-in-50-50-game-f-that-040604550.html

ProfessorGAC

(69,854 posts)

10. A Little Easier

Reply to kairos12 (Original post)

Sun Sep 22, 2024, 11:47 AM

Sep 22

But, the rules about pick-off attempts has encouraged more attempts.
As good as catchers are now, I think it's not much easier to steal.
Every team today has a catcher with a cannon for an arm. You still have to be fast with excellent acceleration to steal bases.

Magoo48

(5,341 posts)

13. Ohtani's record is what it is. As for MVP, well, stranger things have happened.

Reply to kairos12 (Original post)

Mon Sep 23, 2024, 07:16 AM

Sep 23

Say, like a team of admitted cheaters being allowed to retain the World Series title in 2017.

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