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EnergizedLib

(2,127 posts)
Thu Sep 26, 2024, 09:41 PM Sep 26

All my respect is gone for Tommy John

I'm not sure if this is more appropriate for the baseball forum or somewhere else on here. If it's the latter, I hope it can be moved.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/health/other/retired-pitcher-claims-his-support-of-donald-trump-has-kept-him-out-of-hall-of-fame/ar-AA1rgUBh?ocid=msedgdhp&pc=HCTS&cvid=cbeabeb4267849328966febeb38d7a5b&ei=13#comments

----Snip


Rather than anything he did on the field — or the surgery that bears his name — John offered a different explanation for why he hasn't been voted into Cooperstown.

"Maybe because I voted for Donald Trump," John told The Michael Kay Show on Wednesday.

"You think that's it?" Kay responded.

"Probably," John said. "I don't know."

----Snip

All of Tommy John's BBWAA eligibility was used years before the insurrectionist came down the escalator, before the 2016 election. I never would've known he voted for TFG if he didn't say anything here, but we're supposed to believe who you voted for has an impact on you having opportunities for years and not getting in?

Now, I am completely objective when it comes to Cooperstown. I've felt Tommy John should be in, and the ridiculousness of such a claim does not change my stance on his case, but it makes me think much less of him as a human being. And I feel the same way about Curt Schilling, who also should have a plaque, but is one of the most vile human beings ever to make it to the majors.

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All my respect is gone for Tommy John (Original Post) EnergizedLib Sep 26 OP
If you go to baseball reference and go to Tommy John' page, FSogol Sep 26 #1
If you want to repost, edit the article, select all, copy and close the page or go back. usonian Sep 26 #2
He needs surgery True Dough Sep 26 #3
They could try taking healthy parts of his brain and sewing them into the RW portions. What would they call FSogol Sep 27 #5
these people are such victims PedroXimenez Sep 27 #4
My Only Disagreement... ProfessorGAC Sep 28 #6
Ah, the poor MAGA! Different Drummer Sep 30 #7

FSogol

(46,502 posts)
1. If you go to baseball reference and go to Tommy John' page,
Thu Sep 26, 2024, 09:53 PM
Sep 26

You can click on hall of fame statistics. Stat-heads have created 5 metrics to predict if someone deserves to be in the hall. John falls short in 4 out of the 5 metrics.

As you mentioned, he was not allowed in long before Trumpy ran. He's just another wing nut pretending he is a victim.

usonian

(13,772 posts)
2. If you want to repost, edit the article, select all, copy and close the page or go back.
Thu Sep 26, 2024, 10:14 PM
Sep 26

You can paste it into a new article. Only the title needs to be retyped.

Good post.

So tired of slackers claiming to be victims. They won't take responsibility for their own lives.

FSogol

(46,502 posts)
5. They could try taking healthy parts of his brain and sewing them into the RW portions. What would they call
Fri Sep 27, 2024, 01:04 PM
Sep 27

that operation?

ProfessorGAC

(69,851 posts)
6. My Only Disagreement...
Sat Sep 28, 2024, 05:45 PM
Sep 28

...is on Schilling. I believe he was a steroid user who never got implicated.
How many guys in baseball history picked up 2mph on their fastball & 3" of movement on their slider after they were 32?
I think the answer is "None that were not chemically enhanced."

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