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red dog 1

(29,546 posts)
Sun Feb 11, 2018, 03:09 PM Feb 2018

Should Barry Bonds be elected to the Baseball Hall of Fame?

[Source: Wikipedia]

Considered to be one of the greatest baseball players of all time, Barry Bonds holds many major league hitting records, including most career home runs [762], most home runs in a season [73, set in 2001], and most career walks [2,558].
He also received eight Gold Gloves for his defense in the outfield.

In 2007, Bonds was indicted on four charges of perjury and one count of obstruction of justice for allegedly lying to the grand jury during the federal government's investigation of the Bay Area Laboratory Co-operative [BALCO].

On February 14, 2008, a "typo" in court papers filed by federal prosecutors erroneously reported that Bonds tested positive for steroids in November, 2001, a month after hitting his record 73rd home run.
The reference was meant instead to refer to a November 2000 test that had already been disclosed and previously reported.
The typo sparked a media frenzy.

The perjury charges were eventually dropped.

On April 13, 2011, he was convicted on the obstruction of justice charge for giving an evasive answer to a question under oath.
The conviction was initially upheld by a three-judge panel of the U.S. Court of Appeals for the Ninth Circuit in 2013, but a larger panel of the court voted 10-1 to overturn the conviction on April 22, 2015.

In 2018, Bonds was not elected into the National Baseball Hall of Fame in his sixth of ten years of eligibility.


Despite extensive media coverage of Barry Bonds' role in the steroid scandal and BALCO, there is one important thing that the media has missed, which, in my opinion, is an important factor in determining whether or not he should be inducted into the Baseball Hall of Fame.
Back in 2001, while he was setting the all-time record for most home runs in a single season, foreign terrorists attacked the World Trade Center on September 11.
Everything stopped..including all air traffic (except for the jets that carried the Bin Laden family out of the country, much to the chagrin of the FBI)
Our nation was in shock, and, Republicans and Democrats alike, we all mourned the deaths of the nearly 3,000 innocent victims of the attacks, including 343 New York City firefighters and more than 60 NYC police officers.

Everything stopped - including major league baseball.
There were no baseball games for more than a week.
Then, after major league baseball resumed, Barry Bonds continued to hit home runs.

In my opinion, he did more to "heal" our nation in that time of great crisis than anyone else.
While most of us were still in mourning over the 9/11 attacks, Bonds resumed his quest to set the major league record for most home runs in a single season.
He eventually hit 73 homers that year, giving America something to cheer about for the first time since the 9/11 attacks.
I think he deserves some credit for that; and I also think he deserves to be in the Hall of Fame...but that's just my opinion.





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Barry Bonds deserves to be inducted into the Baseball Hall of Fame
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Should Barry Bonds be elected to the Baseball Hall of Fame? (Original Post) red dog 1 Feb 2018 OP
Yes. Without a doubt. Bleacher Creature Feb 2018 #1
No and neither should Clemens Va Lefty Feb 2018 #2
Yes John Fante Feb 2018 #3
The commissioner who presided over steroids is in GitRDun Feb 2018 #4
Vote him in. ificandream Jan 2022 #5
I had season tickets for three years, the first one behind Barry in the left field bleachers. Damn, he was fun to watch. ificandream Dec 11 #11
Ortiz is in! Rastapopoulos Jan 2022 #6
Barry Bonds deserves to be elected to the Baseball Hall of Fame red dog 1 Jun 2024 #7
This message was self-deleted by its author red dog 1 Jun 2024 #8
Why Barry Bonds Needs to be in the Baseball Hall of Fame red dog 1 Jun 2024 #9
Kinda, sorta off topic: Willie Mays, Barry Bonds' Godfather passed away today - 18 June 2024 Brother Buzz Jun 2024 #10
I'm A No ProfessorGAC Dec 11 #12

Bleacher Creature

(11,462 posts)
1. Yes. Without a doubt.
Sun Feb 11, 2018, 03:15 PM
Feb 2018

Even if you only look at his resume from 1987-98, which is when most people say that he was clean, he's still a first ballot Hall of Famer. That said, he's an idiot who didn't need to take a single thing to still be classified as a top 10 player of all time.

John Fante

(3,479 posts)
3. Yes
Sun Feb 11, 2018, 03:32 PM
Feb 2018

If only because the indignant attitude shown by baseball writers and the league itself to the players from the steroid era is absolutely laughable. These phonies had no problem lauding Bonds, Mcgwire, and Sosa with praise (and press) when they were shattering records, even though it was plainly obvious they were juicing. Now that the cat is out of the bag they suddenly care about the purity and sanctity of the game? Puh-leeze.

GitRDun

(1,846 posts)
4. The commissioner who presided over steroids is in
Sun Feb 11, 2018, 04:13 PM
Feb 2018

Bud Selig led baseball as teams participated in the steroid era. If he gets in no penalty should be paid by the players.

Further baseball history is filled with players who took performance enhancers, just something other than steroids.

He should be in, no question.

ificandream

(10,753 posts)
11. I had season tickets for three years, the first one behind Barry in the left field bleachers. Damn, he was fun to watch.
Wed Dec 11, 2024, 06:58 PM
Dec 11

He was also very appreciative of the fans. Got to talk to him on picture day and got his autograph on a baseball cap.

red dog 1

(29,546 posts)
7. Barry Bonds deserves to be elected to the Baseball Hall of Fame
Wed Jun 5, 2024, 04:16 PM
Jun 2024

And you are 100 percent correct.

After the Bush/Cheney 9/11 WTC attacks, which killed over 3,000 innocent Americans,
"Everything stopped - including major league baseball....Then, after major league baseball resumed, Barry Bonds continued to hit home runs.
He did more to 'heal' our nation in that time of great crisis, than anyone else."



On a personal note, as a 50-year San Francisco Giants fan, I think the Giants should hire Barry Bonds as their new batting coach.
He would be the perfect choice for that job, imo.

Response to red dog 1 (Original post)

Brother Buzz

(38,027 posts)
10. Kinda, sorta off topic: Willie Mays, Barry Bonds' Godfather passed away today - 18 June 2024
Tue Jun 18, 2024, 08:08 PM
Jun 2024

Reported during today's SF game by Kuiper and Krukow - hasn't made to MSM yet.

ProfessorGAC

(70,615 posts)
12. I'm A No
Wed Dec 11, 2024, 08:51 PM
Dec 11

Everybody says he would have been in with his play before steroids.
My problem is we don't, and can't know for sure when juicing started.
I am not convinced that everything "pre-roid" was actually "pre".
What we do know for sure is that he cheated. I will not presume that everything prior was clean.
McGwire set the rookie record for homeruns when he was a tall, skinny kid out of college.
That doesn't excuse the cheating later.

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