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The Major League Baseball Players Association has made a proposal to MLB for a season of 89 games, with a full prorated share of salary and expanded playoffs, sources familiar with the situation told ESPN on Tuesday ... it is 25 games fewer than the union's most recent proposal of 114 games at full pro rata, sources told ESPN.
But an MLB source familiar with the negotiations told ESPN's Karl Ravech that the proposal is a nonstarter. "Out of concern for the players' health, extending the regular season past Sept. 27 won't happen," the source told Ravech. "There is a window of playing between 60 [and] 70 regular-season games, but pay still remains an issue." MLB on Monday proposed a 76-game season that would cover up to 75% of players' prorated salaries.
This newest MLBPA proposal would have the season start July 10 and end Oct. 11, a source told ESPN's Jesse Rogers. It also would expand the postseason to 16 teams (eight in each league) for 2020 and 2021.
Like MLB's proposal Monday, this offer has the players sharing in a pool of at least $50 million if the playoffs are played without fans.
If the sides are unable to agree to a deal, the league has the ability to implement a schedule of its desired length. It has focused recently on a potential 48-game season, sources told ESPN.
https://www.espn.com/mlb/story/_/id/29289638/sources-mlbpa-proposes-89-game-season-expanded-playoffs
Coleman
(923 posts)Play teams in your division 7 times and the others in your league 3 times. Total 58 games
Then all teams go into a league double elimination tourney. Seeding done by league standings from regular season. #1 rated team in each league receive a first round bye.
Champions from each league tourney play the world series.
Squidly
(867 posts)They do not want the playoffs going into Nov in fear of another shutdown when and if Covid-19 comes back with a vengeance in the fall. Inside sources (and yes I do have one) are saying they prefer a 45-50 game schedule with a 16 team playoff ending early October. Most of this is boiling down to how players are going to be paid.
Brother Buzz
(37,660 posts)You never give me your money
You only give me your funny paper
And in the middle of negotiations
You break down
Players Association leader Tony Clark released the following statement on Saturday (13 June):
Players want to play.
Its who we are and what we do. Since March, the Association has made it clear that our No.1 focus is playing the fullest season possible, as soon as possible, as safely as possible. Players agreed to billions in monetary concessions as a means to that end, and in the face of repeated media leaks and misdirection we made additional proposals to inject new revenues into the industry proposals that would benefit the owners, players, broadcast partners, and fans alike.
Its now become apparent that these efforts have fallen upon deaf ears. In recent days, owners have decried the supposed unprofitability of owning a baseball team and the Commissioner has repeatedly threatened to schedule a dramatically shortened season unless players agree to hundreds of millions in further concessions. Our response has been consistent that such concessions are unwarranted, would be fundamentally unfair to players, and that our sport deserves the fullest 2020 season possible. These remain our positions today, particularly in light of new reports regarding MLBs national television rights information we requested from the league weeks ago but were never provided.
As a result, it unfortunately appears that further dialogue with the league would be futile. Its time to get back to work. Tell us when and where.
The league responded with their own statement later that day:
We are disappointed that the MLBPA has chosen not to negotiate in good faith over resumption of play after MLB has made three successive proposals that would provide players, Clubs and our fans with an amicable resolution to a very difficult situation caused by the COVID-19 pandemic. The MLBPA understands that the agreement reached on March 26th was premised on the parties mutual understanding that the players would be paid their full salaries only if play resumed in front of fans, and that another negotiation was to take place if Clubs could not generate the billions of dollars of ticket revenue required to pay players. The MLBPAs position that players are entitled to virtually all the revenue from a 2020 season played without fans is not fair to the thousands of other baseball employees that Clubs and our office are supporting financially during this very difficult 2020 season. We will evaluate the Unions refusal to adhere to the terms of the March Agreement, and after consulting with ownership, determine the best course to bring baseball back to our fans.
To sum all that up: The players are done negotiating, and want the league to go ahead and implement whatever length of season it wants to with full prorated pay and they want the plans for that season to be presented by the end of Monday, reports Ken Rosenthal of The Athletic. The league is very disappointed in this position (and surely regretting that their poorly written March contract is coming back to bite them).