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brush

(57,568 posts) Mon Dec 14, 2020, 06:57 PM Dec 2020

I wonder if "The Tribe" would work for the new name for Cleveland's baseball team?

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The team has been referred to as that for years too, or is that consider a pejorative also and to close to the former name? Doesn't seem so to me, it's almost affectionate.

It's kind of like the "The Heat" or "The Avalanche".

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I wonder if "The Tribe" would work for the new name for Cleveland's baseball team? (Original Post) brush Dec 2020 OP

William and Mary had to change their name from the Tribe underpants Dec 2020 #1

I heard this one today: The Cleveland Rocks RockRaven Dec 2020 #2

No. Not good. Who wants to be called a Rock? brush Dec 2020 #6

Well, you'd never use it as a singular in reference to a player, because it is not a noun. RockRaven Dec 2020 #7

ROFL Auggie Dec 2020 #12

Being from Cleveland myself, the Tribe ProudMNDemocrat Dec 2020 #3

Naw. This is going to be a tough one... El Supremo Dec 2020 #4

I was able to attend some meeting with western (CO) tribes and high school officials looking at this hlthe2b Dec 2020 #5

On your edit: The Chief Wahoo logo was ditched a few years ago. brush Dec 2020 #14

The Cleveland Spiders DeeDeeNY Dec 2020 #8

I know about that old name from way back when. brush Dec 2020 #9

How about Midges? DeeDeeNY Dec 2020 #10

Usually teams want a postive name. No to yet another annoying insect. brush Dec 2020 #11

The Cleveland Ghoulardis Auggie Dec 2020 #13

Guardians? Named after the Guardians of transportation on the Hope bridge? Capt. America Dec 2020 #15

underpants

(186,681 posts)

1. William and Mary had to change their name from the Tribe

Reply to brush (Original post)

Mon Dec 14, 2020, 06:59 PM

Dec 2020

They are now the Griffin

RockRaven

(16,283 posts)

2. I heard this one today: The Cleveland Rocks

Reply to brush (Original post)

Mon Dec 14, 2020, 07:01 PM

Dec 2020

brush

(57,568 posts)

6. No. Not good. Who wants to be called a Rock?

Reply to RockRaven (Reply #2)

Mon Dec 14, 2020, 07:41 PM

Dec 2020

RockRaven

(16,283 posts)

7. Well, you'd never use it as a singular in reference to a player, because it is not a noun.

Reply to brush (Reply #6)

Mon Dec 14, 2020, 07:53 PM

Dec 2020

Sort of like the Stanford Cardinal, but an inverse case.

Auggie

(31,802 posts)

12. ROFL

Reply to brush (Reply #6)

Tue Dec 15, 2020, 07:47 AM

Dec 2020

No one

ProudMNDemocrat

(19,061 posts)

3. Being from Cleveland myself, the Tribe

Reply to brush (Original post)

Mon Dec 14, 2020, 07:03 PM

Dec 2020

Was what the team was often revered as.

But for a team mascot?

El Supremo

(20,377 posts)

4. Naw. This is going to be a tough one...

Reply to brush (Original post)

Mon Dec 14, 2020, 07:04 PM

Dec 2020

because Cleveland has absolutely nothing going for it. Except maybe the Rock & Roll Hall of Fame. The "Rockers"? But that is too similar to the Rockies.

hlthe2b

(106,367 posts)

5. I was able to attend some meeting with western (CO) tribes and high school officials looking at this

Reply to brush (Original post)

Mon Dec 14, 2020, 07:05 PM

Dec 2020

There were a number of names that came up that were considered "neutral, but positive", "directed, but positive" or acceptable in the right area/context. I don't remember them all, but I know "WARRIOR" and "Braves" were considered "directed, but positive" and I believe that tribe was a "neutral positive." "Chiefs" was considered "directed, but positive." Obviously, this speaks only to those local Native American representatives.

There were a lot of school names that they didn't have a major problem with... Maybe more will come to me later.

On edit: these discussions were limited to renaming high school teams. I don't think there was any discussion of differences with professional commercial teams, but in retrospect, I think they would have seen the issues as distinctly different. Encouraging youth with positive Native American imagery is one thing. Exploiting it for commercial value (especially with degrading logos and commercial paraphernalia) is quite another.

brush

(57,568 posts)

14. On your edit: The Chief Wahoo logo was ditched a few years ago.

Reply to hlthe2b (Reply #5)

Tue Dec 15, 2020, 11:37 AM

Dec 2020

Now just a cap "C" is used on their baseball caps. I think the team is trying to do the right thing which is why I was wondering if "The Tribe" would work. You mentioned that in the meeting you attended it was viewed as neutral positive, that's a good thing.

How was the name "Indians" viewed? Was it objected to. It doesn't seem negative to me, but the association with that logo is probably too much to overcome.