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El Supremo

(20,377 posts)
Sat Apr 9, 2022, 06:44 PM Apr 2022

I hate the singing of 'God Bess America' during the 7th inning stretch.

Not only is it xenophobic, it's theologically incorrect. If they can't get rid of it, change it to 'God Bless Ukraine' . Or maybe, as Tiny Tim said: "God Bless Us Everyone".

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I hate the singing of 'God Bess America' during the 7th inning stretch. (Original Post) El Supremo Apr 2022 OP
Take Me Out to the Ballgame works well... SheltieLover Apr 2022 #1
But where are the peanuts in a box of Cracker Jacks? El Supremo Apr 2022 #2
Of course! SheltieLover Apr 2022 #3
1908 first verse: El Supremo Apr 2022 #7
I do! Harry Caray used to say it was the only song he knew all the words to. rsdsharp Apr 2022 #14
Lol SheltieLover Apr 2022 #22
It's forcing religion on people at an entertainment event PJMcK Apr 2022 #4
If it was not popular, it would be gone. Sneederbunk Apr 2022 #5
I've also often wondered why the "militarization" of sporting events. From flyovers to walkingman Apr 2022 #6
It's a pandemic--of "the measles of mankind." lastlib Apr 2022 #21
The military pays for that (yes, using our tax dollars). Auggie Apr 2022 #23
May I suggest this..... multigraincracker Apr 2022 #8
It was more or less appropriate in 2001. Now it is stupid. nt Gore1FL Apr 2022 #9
Irving Berlin's song was bashed by KKK. So, I'm OK with it. Hoyt Apr 2022 #10
The Rich and Complicated History of 'God Bless America' (NYT, July 3, 2019) hlthe2b Apr 2022 #11
'This Land is Your Land' should be our national anthem. El Supremo Apr 2022 #12
As a tremendous fan of Woody Guthrie, I'd have to agree. hlthe2b Apr 2022 #13
Plus a gazillion Diamond_Dog Apr 2022 #15
Yes I Rebl2 Apr 2022 #16
It's not as bad as "God Bless the USA" by Lee Greenwood. Patterson Apr 2022 #17
No joke. That song and singer are nauseating. Hoyt Apr 2022 #19
I dearly hate that song. TomSlick Apr 2022 #20
Become a Red Sox fan dem4decades Apr 2022 #18

El Supremo

(20,377 posts)
7. 1908 first verse:
Sat Apr 9, 2022, 06:57 PM
Apr 2022

Katie Casey was base ball mad.
Had the fever and had it bad;
Just to root for the home town crew,
Ev'ry sou Katie blew.
On a Saturday, her young beau
Called to see if she'd like to go,
To see a show but Miss Kate said,
"No, I'll tell you what you can do."

Nobody remembers this.

rsdsharp

(10,063 posts)
14. I do! Harry Caray used to say it was the only song he knew all the words to.
Sat Apr 9, 2022, 07:22 PM
Apr 2022

He wasn’t even close.

He also used to say he stopped drinking after his stroke, but I was at a game at Wrigley — after his stroke — sitting about 25 feet from the press box. By game’s end there were six beer cups in front of him. And his rendition of Take Me Out To The Ball Game was a drunken mess.

PJMcK

(22,829 posts)
4. It's forcing religion on people at an entertainment event
Sat Apr 9, 2022, 06:50 PM
Apr 2022

Some country we've got.

Republicans hate democracy and do everything they can to thwart the will of the People.

Evangelical zealots force legislation eliminating the rights of minorities: People of color, women, foreigners, LGBTQ and others all in a nation that is supposed to have a barrier between church and state.

They've even messed up our "national pastime."

The "God Bless America" thing started after the 9/11 attacks, I think. How hypocritical!

walkingman

(8,248 posts)
6. I've also often wondered why the "militarization" of sporting events. From flyovers to
Sat Apr 9, 2022, 06:54 PM
Apr 2022

honor/color guards to patches on uniforms - what's up with that? Does it symbolize battle or just more of the patriotic indoctrination in America.

lastlib

(24,736 posts)
21. It's a pandemic--of "the measles of mankind."
Sat Apr 9, 2022, 10:32 PM
Apr 2022

(My favorite Albert Einstein quote: "Nationalism is an infantile disease. It is the measles of mankind." But I prefer to think of it more as polio or smallpox.)

hlthe2b

(105,925 posts)
11. The Rich and Complicated History of 'God Bless America' (NYT, July 3, 2019)
Sat Apr 9, 2022, 07:03 PM
Apr 2022

Kate Smith’s rendition may now be tarnished by her own legacy, but Irving Berlin’s love letter to his adopted country still has the power to stir.

(worth a full read if you can access past the paywall)

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/07/03/arts/music/kate-smith-god-bless-america.html

It was 1938, and Kate Smith was in the market for a new brand.

She was several years into her singing career — a career that would span five decades and earn her a Presidential Medal of Freedom — and Smith’s manager, Ted Collins, wanted to change up her image. She was going to be wholesome, the girl next door. All-American.

So when they approached the composer Irving Berlin, in need of a new patriotic gem for Smith to perform on Armistice Day (now Veterans Day) in 1938, he had just the thing: an old tune, written and stashed away during his Army days 20 years earlier.

“God Bless America” would become a sensation, and so would Smith. But this April, the song would become tarnished by its association with the performer who made it famous, when information surfaced that Smith had performed racist songs in the years before “God Bless America.” Two sports teams that regularly played her rendition, the New York Yankees and Philadelphia Flyers, dropped the Kate Smith version from their playlists.
Early on, it was a lofty monument of patriotism as the United States climbed out of the Depression and then lurched into war. Seventy years later, it became a symbol of unity after the Sept. 11 attacks. Along the way, it has been performed by countless vocalists, bands and classrooms of schoolchildren, and spun off millions in royalties for two of Berlin’s favorite organizations, the Boy Scouts and Girl Scouts.

--snip--
Then, as now, some listeners found the song jingoistic. Woody Guthrie is said to have written his earthy standard “This Land Is Your Land” as a protest after growing tired of repeatedly hearing Smith singing Berlin’s song. (Guthrie’s original title was “God Blessed America for Me.”)

--snip--
Through it all, Kate Smith’s voice remained a fixture at Yankee Stadium. Then, this year, a fan sent an email to the Yankees flagging the racist songs Ms. Smith had recorded, with titles like “Pickaninny Heaven” and “That’s Why Darkies Were Born.”

In the early years of Smith’s career on the vaudeville circuit, songs like these — with titles and lyrics depicting painful, demeaning stereotypes of black people — were part of mainstream popular music, Kaskowitz said. And in vaudeville, she added, the performers who were prescribed the role of singing these songs were generally larger white women like Smith.
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