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PHILLIES!!!! (Original Post) Freddie Oct 2022 OP
Great comeback by the Phillies.....Go Astros!!! walkingman Oct 2022 #1
That was fun! redwitch Oct 2022 #2
Whew! Sugarcoated Oct 2022 #3
for old Phillies fans like me NoRethugFriends Oct 2022 #4
Dallas Green was the Phillies' manager during the 1980 year? MerryHolidays Oct 2022 #10
Bill Virdon was the Astros manager NoRethugFriends Oct 2022 #12
I was having a disagreement with my mom BigmanPigman Oct 2022 #5
Message auto-removed Name removed Oct 2022 #14
Could care less, Red Sox Fan here..... OAITW r.2.0 Oct 2022 #6
I know the Astros are great this year Freddie Oct 2022 #7
As a Red Sox fan, I always want the Yankees to lose. OAITW r.2.0 Oct 2022 #8
Schilling the jerk gave new meaning to the term "Red Sox" NoRethugFriends Oct 2022 #13
The late great Jim Fregosi Freddie Oct 2022 #16
Let's Go Phillies! The Polack MSgt Oct 2022 #9
Even though defeated my unbeatable Cawdnuls GreenWave Oct 2022 #11
It's the other way around GreenWave TxGuitar Oct 2022 #17
The Judge laughed at Correa GreenWave Oct 2022 #18
Great comeback. Shocked the heck out of the Astros. honest.abe Oct 2022 #15
Yankees fan but rooting for Phillies! Do have to ask Laura PourMeADrink Nov 2022 #19

Sugarcoated

(8,099 posts)
3. Whew!
Fri Oct 28, 2022, 11:51 PM
Oct 2022

Always good to win the first game, especially against the team that didn't drop a single game in their playoffs

NoRethugFriends

(2,997 posts)
4. for old Phillies fans like me
Sat Oct 29, 2022, 12:01 AM
Oct 2022

I missed seeing Bill Verdon in The dugout as he was the manager in 1980 when the Phillies beat the Astros in the playoffs with the comeback against Nolan Ryan. He was Mr Stone face no emotion.

BigmanPigman

(52,259 posts)
5. I was having a disagreement with my mom
Sat Oct 29, 2022, 12:12 AM
Oct 2022

this week. We moved from Phila in 1984 and I swore I watched the World Series in 1980. I remember this since I had gone to college in NYC that year and saw it it the student lounge. I do not follow sports at all and only care if the Phila teams are in the finals so it is very rare that I watch sports at all but I am a loyal Philadelphian. I remembered the names of Garry Maddox, Greg Luzinski, Steve Carlton and Mike Schmidt when I looked it up so I could tell my mom that it was 1980 and not 1982. I also remember Pete Rose being a schmuck.

Response to BigmanPigman (Reply #5)

Freddie

(9,693 posts)
7. I know the Astros are great this year
Sat Oct 29, 2022, 12:16 AM
Oct 2022

But I’m glad it’s them and not the Yankees. Every time we’ve played the Yankees in the Series (1950, 2009) they won.

Freddie

(9,693 posts)
16. The late great Jim Fregosi
Sat Oct 29, 2022, 05:17 PM
Oct 2022

Phillies manager during the 1993 Pennant season - said about Schilling: “Every 5 days he’s a real horse on the mound. The other 4 days he’s just a horse’s a**.”

GreenWave

(9,189 posts)
11. Even though defeated my unbeatable Cawdnuls
Sat Oct 29, 2022, 06:35 AM
Oct 2022

Go Phillies.

Beat those cheaters.

PS The Astros stole proprietary draft formulas from the Cawdnuls and look at their team that should be law abiding Cawdnuls.

TxGuitar

(4,278 posts)
17. It's the other way around GreenWave
Sun Oct 30, 2022, 02:08 PM
Oct 2022
The Cardinals stole from the Astros:

ST. LOUIS -- The Astros have been awarded the Cardinals' first two picks in this year's Draft as a result of the illegal breach of the Astros' baseball operations database by a former baseball operations employee of the Cardinals, Christopher Correa. Commissioner Rob Manfred made the ruling on Monday.

In a statement, Manfred stated that Major League Baseball's investigation found no evidence that anyone besides Correa was responsible for accessing the Astros' information. However, Manfred did hold the Cardinals liable for Correa being in position to use the information in a way that would benefit the organization and levied multiple punishments, commensurate with the vital nature of proprietary information for all 30 clubs.


Also, the Yankees and Red Sox were also implicated in sign stealing scandals; do you feel the same about them?

GreenWave

(9,189 posts)
18. The Judge laughed at Correa
Sun Oct 30, 2022, 04:32 PM
Oct 2022

He said, "So you broke into the Astros' house to see if they stole anything from your house."

The FBI said Correa was able to gain access using a password similar to that used by a Cardinals employee who "had to turn over his Cardinals-owned laptop to Correa along with the laptop's password" when he was leaving for a job with the Astros in 2011. The employee was not identified, though Luhnow left St. Louis for Houston in December of that year to become general manager.

Almost the same password?

Luhnow was in St. Louis when the team built a computer database called Redbird and where he first hired Sig Mejdal, a former NASA employee, as director of amateur draft analytics. Mejdal joined Luhnow in Houston in January of 2012 with the unique title of director of decision sciences, and the pair and the rest of the staff made the Houston version of Redbird and called it Ground Control.


Astros general manager Jeff Luhnow and manager AJ Hinch were each suspended without pay for the 2020 season by Major League Baseball, which on Monday released the findings from its investigation of Houston’s sign-stealing allegations.

And there is more:

Former Astros general manager Jeff Luhnow’s lawsuit against the ballclub was dismissed on Friday after both parties “resolved their differences,” severing the final tie between the team and its most successful executive in history.


My problem is St. Louis has always allowed MLB to punish it and push it around.

Lowered mound when Gibby was way too dominant.

Curt Flood does not report/ Philly allowed to rip off top prospect PLUS trade Flood for Unser. Net result +1 Philly -1 StL.

In this case Correa, St. Louis draft director made an executive mistake. Houston was going nowhere with drafts before Luhnow draft picks catapult them.

I don't know the ins and outs but the near identical password is suspicious. Houston was drafting before the Cards in each round, so the Cards could not rip off their potential draftees. MLB was insane to award Houston two first rounders. They never proved St. L had Astro draft picks selected.

Two shady characters. Imagine Lunhow seeing the scandal and then does what he does later.

Sorry for the rant here. Yanks and Sox also cheated and I feel even worse about them. When Cards got Willie McGee Yanks were crybabies and wanted more compensation.

 

Laura PourMeADrink

(42,770 posts)
19. Yankees fan but rooting for Phillies! Do have to ask
Wed Nov 2, 2022, 09:10 PM
Nov 2022

Tho... Why do they allow that guy to look so creepy with beard and long hair. Sure a great guy and great player, but scary

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