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brush

(57,965 posts)
Sun Jun 30, 2024, 07:04 PM Jun 2024

Footbal fans, what's going to happen to the "Rose Bowl" now that the PAC-12 is kaput?

Last edited Mon Jul 8, 2024, 12:46 AM - Edit history (2)

The Rose Bowl dates back to when Knute Rockne was still coaching Notre Dame and taking his team to the Rose Bowl. They beat Stanford in the 1925 game.

The famed stadium is still there in Pasadena. I can't imagine it staying vacant on New Year's Day.

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Brother Buzz

(37,983 posts)
1. There WILL be a Rose Bowl Parade and a New Year's Rose Bowl game
Sun Jun 30, 2024, 07:14 PM
Jun 2024

The 2025 Rose Bowl is scheduled to be played on January 1, 2025, at the Rose Bowl in Pasadena, California.

The 111th annual Rose Bowl game will be one of the playoff quarterfinals and will feature two of the playoff teams. The game is scheduled to begin at 2:00 p.m. PST.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2025_Rose_Bowl#:~:text=The%202025%20Rose%20Bowl%20is,at%202%3A00%20p.m.%20PST.

John1956PA

(3,418 posts)
3. Thank you for the information.
Sun Jun 30, 2024, 07:36 PM
Jun 2024

The long history and pagentry of the Rose Bowl, with its associated parade, always appealed to me. The PAC 10 did not survive, partially because of the time zone disparity which created challenges in scheduling television coverage of their home games. Best wishes to all of the teams which made up the PAC 10.

brush

(57,965 posts)
4. It was last the PAC-12 and it survived for several decades...
Sun Jun 30, 2024, 07:50 PM
Jun 2024

from 8 to 10 and finally 12 schools. It always featured te Pacific Atheletic Conference champion with a team fron the east...for many decades there was an agreement with the BIG-10 Conference to send it's champion to play there.

The time zone difference was not a factor as the parade and game were televised successully for many decades. What killed that arrangement was the smise of the PAC conference.

That's a sad fact for college Atheletics which is changing radically with NIL now and the SEC and BIG-10 becoming by far the two dominating conferences.

Prof. Toru Tanaka

(2,350 posts)
7. Spot-on post!
Sun Jun 30, 2024, 09:04 PM
Jun 2024

I cannot believe USC and UCLA will be Big Ten members. I still haven’t gotten used to Maryland leaving the ACC and I no longer follow them. Also, how long is the Big Ten going to use the ridiculous practice of calling themselves the Big Ten when the conference will have 18 members next season?

brush

(57,965 posts)
8. They're up to 18 schools now? They'll have to change...
Sun Jun 30, 2024, 09:12 PM
Jun 2024

but the BIG-18 doesn't quite have a ring to it.

Prof. Toru Tanaka

(2,350 posts)
11. That's why it is smart
Sun Jun 30, 2024, 09:23 PM
Jun 2024

to use a geographical name for the conference, like the ACC or SEC.

Having Pacific coast teams would make it difficult to give a geographical area name to this conference, though.

John1956PA

(3,418 posts)
9. Thank you for correcting me that the PAC had 12 teams as of late.
Sun Jun 30, 2024, 09:16 PM
Jun 2024

Of course, time zone consideration has nothing to do with televising the parade or the Rose Bowl. However, I did read that the time zone differential prevented the PAC-12 conference from negotiating a more favorable TV broadcasting deal.

brush

(57,965 posts)
13. That's true, and it's why USC and UCLA finally left, which killed the conference.
Sun Jun 30, 2024, 09:31 PM
Jun 2024

It's sad as PAC-12 teams regularly beat the BIG-10 schools in the Rose Bowl game.

Sad to see it go.

a kennedy

(32,260 posts)
5. Hey, the ROSE BOWL used to be the Big 10 trophy.....
Sun Jun 30, 2024, 08:33 PM
Jun 2024

Now???? I don’t even care what it’s given for…. Because the big 10 is now, what, the big 13 or something. 🤬 🤬 🤬

brush

(57,965 posts)
6. It's still the BIG-10, they didn't change the name. College Atheletics...
Sun Jun 30, 2024, 08:53 PM
Jun 2024

is changing radically though with NIL now and the SEC and BIG-10 becoming by far the two dominating conferences and I don't think the changes are over.

I did get your sly remark about the Rose Bowl being the BIG-10 trophy. IIFC correctlythough, they lost quite a lot in the Rose Bowl game. Michigan could hardly ever win, Ohio State didn't do much all that much better. And the rest of the BIG-10 schools hardly ever got there.

Prof. Toru Tanaka

(2,350 posts)
10. All through the 1970s and well into the 1980s,
Sun Jun 30, 2024, 09:18 PM
Jun 2024

the Pac-8 (later the Pac-10 with the two Arizona schools) owned the Big Ten. Look up some of those games and you will see some very high-ranked Big 10 teams (like Ohio St. who was ranked #1 after the 1975 season) getting beat by big underdogs.

From 1970 through 1989, the Pac-10 went 16-4 against the Big 10.

caraher

(6,312 posts)
15. goes back even before Rockne
Mon Jul 8, 2024, 12:42 AM
Jul 2024

In 1902 Michigan beat Stanford 49-0.

The game was so lopsided that for the next 13 years, the Tournament of Roses officials ran chariot races, ostrich races, and other various events instead of football. But, on New Year's Day 1916 football returned to stay as Washington State University defeated Brown University in the first annual Tournament of Roses football game.


College football is less and less fun as the NCAA pursues the almighty dollar. These conferences are stupid. Too much travel, not to mention the loss of regional competition and some rivalry games becoming add-ons

brush

(57,965 posts)
16. NIL, the new mega conferences requiring coast-to-coast travel for some teams...
Mon Jul 8, 2024, 12:51 AM
Jul 2024

has skewed the whole college football environment. USC and UCLA will have to travel three and four time zones to placy conference games.

These new alignments still have to work themselves out. More shake-ups to come.

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