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Related: About this forumIf the Ohio State Defensive Coordinator still has a job next year
it would be criminal
calguy
(5,767 posts)Botany
(72,477 posts)They are playing new people all over ... they are thin at d.b., O.Line, linebacker, and I think they
are down 2 or 3 starters on the O. Line .... BTW Coach Day already has hired a new D.C..
paleotn
(19,181 posts)It's been a rather rough weekend for the Big10.
maxrandb
(15,881 posts)Can't really blame them. Why risk getting injured with potential millions at stake?
Happens a lot in this current environment. If teams aren't playing for the National Championship, quite a few star players opt not to play.
I think it was the running back from Miami several years back that blew out this knee. He was projected as a 1ST Round Pick, but dropped to the 4TH or 5TH.
zeusdogmom
(1,047 posts)Headed for the pros and didnt want to risk the chance of injury
I get it - lots of money if you make the pros.
FWIW - if I were a pro coach, those guys would have a black mark against them. Team player or focused on self only
.
FWIW - in my opinion - the Buckeyes have been mediocre all year.
Dan
(4,095 posts)A quality player that decides that he doesnt want to risk his health on a meaningless game shows plenty of common sense. If he is injured what does he get out of it? A meaningless comment by the broadcasters on how good he might have been? The college gives him a full time job in appreciation? Or, does he become another might have been.
My thoughts..
maxrandb
(15,881 posts)But considering that a guy like Kirk Cousins can get $30M a year, risking injury would be hard to do.
I remember some folks were passed when Lebron James went straight to the NBA. Few of us would pass up that kind of money.
Capt. America
(2,482 posts)Dan
(4,095 posts)So, balancing that against a possible Pro-career, it is meaningless. The only way one should play is if they need that game to highlight their potential, because they are on the bubble.
Botany
(72,477 posts)Irish_Dem
(57,435 posts)They didn't want to be injured in the Rose Bowl and hurt their NFL chances.
The days of wanting to play in a Bowl Game are over I guess.
bahboo
(16,953 posts)fun to watch...
Buckeye_Democrat
(15,042 posts)Their offense is typically much more anemic than their defense, but not lately.
If they ever get both their offense and defense clicking in the same season again, they'll be a national title contender.
Missed tackles and not wrapping-up has been painful to watch.
maxrandb
(15,881 posts)Just piss poor defense from the D Line to the Secondary.
Buckeye_Democrat
(15,042 posts)... hoping to outscore their opponents.
The appearance of some improvement, when their DC Coombs was moved off the sidelines, was apparently a fluke.
maxrandb
(15,881 posts)that just kicked a slow softball kick to the best returner in the country
Buckeye_Democrat
(15,042 posts)... but he might be overwhelmed as coordinator of the entire defense.
Their defense was noticeably worse after his promotion to defensive coordinator a few years ago, and it hasn't improved in the meantime.
Botany
(72,477 posts)Oh my fucking God.
Irish_Dem
(57,435 posts)I know, when it was tied, wow.
Buckeye_Democrat
(15,042 posts)... again.
WOW!
Stroud was only three yards short of the passing yards record for ANY bowl game in history.
Smith-Njigba was incredible too. (Both Chris Olave and Garret Wilson said a few weeks ago that Smith-Njigba is the most athletic receiver on their team, without any hesitation.)
Thankful that the defense was adequate in the 2nd half. They have to improve next year.
EDIT: Great game by the Utes, by the way!
maxrandb
(15,881 posts)15 receptions for 367 yards and 2 touchdowns. It was like he was playing Arena Football
Buckeye_Democrat
(15,042 posts)... at Ohio State, and it makes more sense when we consider that the Buckeyes have WR's like Olave, Wilson, Smith-Njigba and Harrison Jr. on the roster.
Highlights of Smith-Njigba's Rose Bowl performance:
He might've had a 4th TD if not for the fumble!
Irish_Dem
(57,435 posts)in for a touchdown? Instead they went for a field goal. They had time for a touch down. And if they didn't make it, would go into overtime and they would have a chance for anther field goal?
But I guess the coach did the prudent thing. Going for a touchdown was risky and the field goal was more certain. But I have seen kickers lose the game.
Buckeye_Democrat
(15,042 posts)... they used their last timeout before the field goal with 12 seconds left on the clock. That struck me as asking for trouble during the ensuing kickoff to Utah, who were a proven threat to return it for a TD.
It's possible that Day was thinking they could have a bad snap during the FG attempt, and he wanted enough time for the holder to possibly throw an incomplete pass before time expired. Then attempt the FG again.
I probably would've instead attempted a running play for a TD, called timeout if it didn't work, then tried a FG.
Irish_Dem
(57,435 posts)Thanks for the explanations, I had not thought of some of the nuances.
Irish_Dem
(57,435 posts)They were only three or so yards away from a TD.
Botany
(72,477 posts)This season I saw him catch a punt over his shoulders with his back turned to the kicking team,
plant his foot, then turn to his right, run to the edge of the field, and then get the corner for about
a 15 yard gain.
I would not blame him if he decided to go pro now. He has nothing left to prove @ Ohio State.
Buckeye_Democrat
(15,042 posts)He'd probably be a high draft pick otherwise.
Botany
(72,477 posts)Sooner or later that rule will be challenged in court.
Next season a team w/Smith-Njiba, those new young wide outs (all who play in the NFL), C.J. Stroud,
and Henderson @ running back will be scary good.
MichMan
(13,172 posts)Jim Knowles from Oklahoma State
Floyd R. Turbo
(28,904 posts)Irish_Dem
(57,435 posts)even when they win in the end.
Buckeye_Democrat
(15,042 posts)... from the "Silver Bullets" for many years, so it's a disappointment when they play so poorly.
Their offense has been a joy to watch, at least.
Irish_Dem
(57,435 posts)When they play badly but still win, we get disgusted.
Yes the offense has been great. If they could get the defense working it would be a fabulous team.
Buckeye_Democrat
(15,042 posts)... makes a comeback next season, more than anything else.
It's like, "Whatever happened to gravity? It used to be a dependable aspect of nature, and I miss it."
Irish_Dem
(57,435 posts)Buckeye_Democrat
(15,042 posts)... that the rich tend to get richer. (Much like our economic system in this country.)
The so-called "Blue Bloods" tend to keep drawing the most talented high school players with promises of greater media exposure and the best training facilities. A football player from Ohio State that goes to the Cincinnati Bengals would experience a downgrade in training facilities, for example.
And with more players involved in football compared to a game like basketball, a few very talented players that slip from the grasp of the Blue Bloods can't have as much of an impact. Guys like Larry Bird (Indiana State) and Stephen Curry (Davidson) were one out of five starters for those schools, not one out of 22.
I generally root for the disadvantaged, but I grew up following the Buckeyes and I'm set in my ways now.
Irish_Dem
(57,435 posts)And can recruit good talent for the reasons you cite.
OSU takes away your diploma if you fail to root for them at games.