My eyes aren't worth a heck though so there is a good chance I am not doing it correctly.

And this stuff is real thin too. Almost like hair. Which doesn't help matters.

Don

I've never been a fan of braided line, especially when it comes to true baitcaster reels. If you just purchase a stronger/thicker mono line it will be about the same effect. And the arbor knot is your best bet as the other postet mentioned. I recommend Stren, personally, but I like SpiderWire mono as well. What do you fish for usually?

Sometimes I hook or snag a large carp or catfish while doing that because I like jigging. Also go to the Kankakee river and fish for sm bass, walleye and pike with the same gear so I need the line strength at a smaller diameter because occasionally I need almost a hundred yards of line. That is why I got away from the mono.

Don

I understand your need for braided line in that situation, though.

It works for me. I agree with the other posters about mono. You can also try flourocarbon if you want less stretch. The Crappie spawn is in full swing down here in Louisiana. Slabs!

I just practiced with it for a while and finally got that figured out. Someone talking me into trying braided and now it is like starting all over again learning how to tie a knot. Probably that is what I am going to need to do with the braid. Just practice with it for a while. I did try the Palomar but I may need to practice with it some more.

Thanks to everyone for all the help.

Don

Frankly, this is just a thought I had 12 minutes after I woke up but...

Have you tried melting it slightly? Maybe use a hot needle or pin to melt a very small part of the line, like a spot weld for plastic?

I don't know if you can do this while preserving the tensile strength, though, so, again, just a thought.

Has the braided material in the middle and then some type of coating over that. Positive the coating is synthetic. Not sure about the braid?

I have been practicing with it for a few days and think I have it figured out now. Went fishing today and the knots held up fine. Casts very smooth too.

Only thing I caught was a stick fish. Pretty good size stick fish though.

Thanks for the advice.

Don

The ol' slingshot/fishing reel trick. Palomar knot usually keeps the line attached to the sinker...

All I had to do was point out the branch I wanted it over and he hit it the first shot.

He was just using mono though.

Don

The neighbours calling the police and all that...

With the spiderwire, I could shoot a 1-Oz sinker twice as high as I could one with 10-pound mono.

or kind of make a loop, only squeeze it together into a point. Then push the doubled up loop, or point, thru the eye. Pull out a lot of line, still doubled up and then open the loop and drop the lure thru it and pull it tight.

Easiest knot to tie and very fast. Never had that knot slip off. Hard to believe it is so easy.
Don't know the name of it. Got a free little book on knots at Bass Pro or Cabela's, can't remember which, that showed how to do it.

When I get snagged in the brush or a tree with this line I can't break it.

I am dying from a thousand cuts all over my hands trying to get it to break. If it is just the hook snagged it is no problem. Just pull the lines until I straighten the hook out. But if the line gets wrapped around something there is no breaking this line. All I can do is get close and cut it with scissors.

Some tough stuff.

Don

you'll find that the line on the reel will cut deep into the rest of the line on the spool. Will screw up cast after that.

On the other side, you can feel the slightest bite. Great for deep fishing for perch down 30 or 40 feet. Also great for ripping a top water lure thru the pads when it is hung up.