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tularetom

(23,664 posts)
Sun Aug 19, 2012, 11:37 PM Aug 2012

Anybody have experience with Colibri (powderless) rimfire ammo?

My son lives in a neighborhood of smaller lots but he has problems with raccoons getting into his garbage cans and compost pile. He'd like to dispatch the boogers but he doesn't want to make a lot of noise and get the neighbors pissed off about somebody discharging a firearm in the hood.

Somebody suggested these subsonic .22 rounds to him. They have no powder but rely on primer to propel a bullet of about 30 grains at something like 500 fps. The advantage is that since they are moving at a rate less than the speed of sound they will not produce the loud report that occurs when using supersonic ammunition. They're supposed to be quieter than an air gun but based on the weight of the projectile and the relatively low velocity it seems unlikely that they would produce enough power for varmints. Sounds pretty wimpy to me.

I offered to let him use my .22 caliber pellet rifle that can push a 20 grain pellet at 1000+ fps but he wants to try these things.

Has anybody ever used this ammo? Know anybody who has?

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Anybody have experience with Colibri (powderless) rimfire ammo? (Original Post) tularetom Aug 2012 OP
Check local laws JustABozoOnThisBus Aug 2012 #1
Another option is traps and take them to animal control ProgressiveProfessor Aug 2012 #2
He's in the county so it isn't illegal to fire a gun there tularetom Aug 2012 #3
Sounds fun, as long as you're not trying to solve a problem ... JustABozoOnThisBus Aug 2012 #4
A .22 at 500 fps is likely to just piss off the raccoon. SeattleVet Aug 2012 #5
why not put out coyote urine? JanMichael Aug 2012 #6
It's Available At Walmart. Paladin Aug 2012 #7
getting coyotes to pee in jars JanMichael Aug 2012 #8
I Agree With You. (nt) Paladin Aug 2012 #9
If shooting them from a rifle they're darned quiet... ileus Sep 2012 #10

JustABozoOnThisBus

(23,800 posts)
1. Check local laws
Mon Aug 20, 2012, 04:37 AM
Aug 2012

In many cities or neighborhoods, it's illegal to shoot a firearm. So a 500fps primer-driven bullet may be illegal, where a 1000fps air-driven pellet may not.

Plus, there are plenty of .22LR rounds that are subsonic (< 1100fps). There's no sonic advantage to dropping all the way down to 500fps. A 500fps hit might just annoy a raccoon. They're tough critters.

Can you get a couple of raccoon-proof garbage cans instead?

tularetom

(23,664 posts)
3. He's in the county so it isn't illegal to fire a gun there
Mon Aug 20, 2012, 11:34 AM
Aug 2012

But it's only a half acre lot so he has to be very careful if he does.

I think he really just wants an excuse to try out this stuff. I have to admit that I'm intrigued by the idea of primers powerful enough to propel a 20g projectile at 500 fps. Maybe I'll buy a box and he can come out here and shoot at drink cans or gophers.

JustABozoOnThisBus

(23,800 posts)
4. Sounds fun, as long as you're not trying to solve a problem ...
Mon Aug 20, 2012, 02:04 PM
Aug 2012

... One bozo's theory:

Shooting a raccoon is like shooting Al Quaeda's second-in-command.

There are more raccoons in line to raid his garbage cans, just like there's a few in line for that open Al Qaeda slot.

There is no "win".

SeattleVet

(5,595 posts)
5. A .22 at 500 fps is likely to just piss off the raccoon.
Mon Aug 20, 2012, 10:46 PM
Aug 2012

They're hard enough to take out with regular .22LR.

JanMichael

(25,280 posts)
6. why not put out coyote urine?
Sat Aug 25, 2012, 01:27 PM
Aug 2012

Why shoot them? There will just be more...he needs to figure out how to drive them away

Paladin

(28,892 posts)
7. It's Available At Walmart.
Sat Aug 25, 2012, 03:36 PM
Aug 2012

Until I Googled that fact, I was thinking you had to go into the woods in search of a cooperative coyote......

JanMichael

(25,280 posts)
8. getting coyotes to pee in jars
Sat Aug 25, 2012, 04:50 PM
Aug 2012

is so time consuming! Seriously, it's better to run the critters off than to shoot them. If you take a bad shot, then they suffer until they die-- it's just cruel. Just make them feel crappy about coming around IE: is some damned coyote going to have me for dinner? that works better all around-

ileus

(15,396 posts)
10. If shooting them from a rifle they're darned quiet...
Mon Sep 3, 2012, 08:45 PM
Sep 2012

more than most air rifles....however.com they're still loud out of a pistol.

Of course they won't cycle the action of any semi auto but that's fine and dandy for the most part.

I've never killed anything with the primer only ammo, but I know it will shoot thru a 1" board so they should work for pest control.

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